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Post by popo on Jan 25, 2010 8:01:00 GMT
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Post by edzepp on Jan 25, 2010 8:06:23 GMT
Two things you can smell in today's page: Fear and fish guts.
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Post by fjodor on Jan 25, 2010 8:10:29 GMT
Standing her ground. Brave girl.
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Post by Nicer Atom on Jan 25, 2010 8:13:25 GMT
It could be much worse. At least the fish is fresh.
Considering the last line, it can be assumed that Annie is safe at the moment, but I think if she had run away, Yssie would've chased her down and maybe killed her out of instinct. I think Coyote was right about the "stand your ground" thing.
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Post by thelizard on Jan 25, 2010 8:17:18 GMT
Is the cloud of vapor around Ysengrin his aura of power, or just his stench? I don't think I would want to mess with either one.
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Post by Deca on Jan 25, 2010 8:27:29 GMT
I think this might be the most terrified we've actually seen Annie act.
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Post by sanguine on Jan 25, 2010 8:31:39 GMT
I never wanted to see the next page more than I have now. O.O
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Post by almoray on Jan 25, 2010 8:34:28 GMT
"If you were anyone else..." I guess he's on strict rules not to eat annie! I can't wait for coyote to toss out a rolled up news paper to her now.  |
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Post by fjodor on Jan 25, 2010 8:40:03 GMT
"If you were anyone else..." I guess he's on strict rules not to eat annie! I can't wait for coyote to toss out a rolled up news paper to her now. HAHA! (My colleagues want to know what's so funny. I am not telling.) |
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Post by sostorm on Jan 25, 2010 9:06:56 GMT
I guess this might prove that she's actually got some medium status by now. Or is it just because she's coyotes friend?
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 25, 2010 10:10:56 GMT
I guess this might prove that she's actually got some medium status by now. Or is it just because she's coyotes friend? She was sort of invited into the forest to have A Cup Of Mad Tea with Coyote when she wants, thus it's not like she's just random anyone on the wrong side of a river. On the other hand, this doesn't include sneaking up on him, so... |
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Post by gaia on Jan 25, 2010 10:30:12 GMT
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So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's?
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Post by penguinfactory on Jan 25, 2010 11:01:55 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I wonder if Coyote is hoping this will achieve something, or if this was all just for the hell of it.
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Post by Midnight Meadows on Jan 25, 2010 11:12:36 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I wonder if Coyote is hoping this will achieve something, or if this was all just for the hell of it. Knowing Coyote, he's mostly just doing it for the laughs (probably rolling around in the bushes offscreen right now), but also with some minor ulterior motive as per usual. |
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Post by todd on Jan 25, 2010 11:43:36 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I've sometimes wondered how much Annie's unflappability is truly part of her character. It was strongest in the early chapters, when she was still dealing with the pain of her mother's death and at her most seemingly emotionless standpoint. Also, when she first came to Gunnerkrigg, the only etheric beings whom she had met were the Guides, who were friendly to her. The first two etheric beings whom she met at the Court, Shadow2 and Basil, were also friendly, as was Mort when he showed up soon afterwards. But then Annie began meeting etheric beings who were less well-disposed to her and whom her etheric abilities couldn't protect her from - Reynardine when he tried to possess her, Jeanne, Ysengrin. (In each case, Annie was rescued from their attacks, in Chapters Three, Eight, and Fourteen respectively, by someone else.) A lot of her unflappability may have stemmed from her not realizing how dangerous the etheric world can be, and the discovery of how naive her approach to it was could have drained much of that response away. There's a passage in Sir Walter Scott's "Ivanhoe" about the Lady Rowena that parallels this interpretation: "Hitherto, Rowena had sustained her part in this trying scene [her abduction by de Bracy] with undismayed courage, but it was because she had not considered the danger as serious and imminent. Her disposition was naturally... mild, timid, and gentle; but it had been tempered, and, as it were hardened, by the circumstances of her education. Accustomed to see the will of all... give way before her wishes, she had acquired that sort of courage and self-confidence which arises from the habitual and constant deference of the circle in which we move. She could scarce conceive the possibility of her will being opposed, far less that of its being treated with total disregard. Her haughtiness and habit of domination was, therefore, a fictitious character, induced over that which was natural to her, and it deserted her when her eyes were opened to the sense of her own danger..." |
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Post by bonzairob on Jan 25, 2010 13:18:05 GMT
? So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's? I get the impression that, when the Court was formed, Ysengrin was firmly on the side of the forest, and Reynard went with the Court; Coyote is technically an outsider here, being from the Americas, but he's much more powerful than Reynard and Ysengrin. I guess he just prefers it in the forest. I'd say Ysengrin's the real lord of the forest, and that he just defers to Coyote. You know, a good webcomic would have just shown Annie "scared" in the last panel. It's testament to how Gunnerkrigg is a great webcomic that she is absolutely terrified! That little bit of brilliance has made my day. if Gunnerkrigg wasn't already my favourite comic, it would be now. |
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Post by chiparoo on Jan 25, 2010 13:35:01 GMT
So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's? You don't have to be in charge of something to feel ownership over it. EDIT: 100 POSTS! Am I part of the group yet? huh? ...Am I? |
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Post by chiparoo on Jan 25, 2010 13:46:28 GMT
? So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's? I get the impression that, when the Court was formed, Ysengrin was firmly on the side of the forest, and Reynard went with the Court; Coyote is technically an outsider here, being from the Americas, but he's much more powerful than Reynard and Ysengrin. I guess he just prefers it in the forest. I'd say Ysengrin's the real lord of the forest, and that he just defers to Coyote. To be clear, according to Coyote, he, Rey and Ysengrin came to the forest/court at the same time.Also, as far as we know, Rey did not go court-side until he persued Surma.And they would be forest-side because they cant be explained through scientific means, can they?  |
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Post by rosesablaze on Jan 25, 2010 14:01:37 GMT
Well this is an uncomfortable situation! I hope nothing truly ill comes of it.
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Post by Casey on Jan 25, 2010 14:43:45 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I've sometimes wondered how much Annie's unflappability is truly part of her character. It was strongest in the early chapters, when she was still dealing with the pain of her mother's death and at her most seemingly emotionless standpoint. Also, when she first came to Gunnerkrigg, the only etheric beings whom she had met were the Guides, who were friendly to her. The first two etheric beings whom she met at the Court, Shadow2 and Basil, were also friendly, as was Mort when he showed up soon afterwards. But then Annie began meeting etheric beings who were less well-disposed to her and whom her etheric abilities couldn't protect her from - Reynardine when he tried to possess her, Jeanne, Ysengrin. (In each case, Annie was rescued from their attacks, in Chapters Three, Eight, and Fourteen respectively, by someone else.) A lot of her unflappability may have stemmed from her not realizing how dangerous the etheric world can be, and the discovery of how naive her approach to it was could have drained much of that response away. There's a passage in Sir Walter Scott's "Ivanhoe" about the Lady Rowena that parallels this interpretation: "Hitherto, Rowena had sustained her part in this trying scene [her abduction by de Bracy] with undismayed courage, but it was because she had not considered the danger as serious and imminent. Her disposition was naturally... mild, timid, and gentle; but it had been tempered, and, as it were hardened, by the circumstances of her education. Accustomed to see the will of all... give way before her wishes, she had acquired that sort of courage and self-confidence which arises from the habitual and constant deference of the circle in which we move. She could scarce conceive the possibility of her will being opposed, far less that of its being treated with total disregard. Her haughtiness and habit of domination was, therefore, a fictitious character, induced over that which was natural to her, and it deserted her when her eyes were opened to the sense of her own danger..." This is an insightful and noteworthy post! I approve, sir, for whatever that's worth. |
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Post by exdevlin on Jan 25, 2010 15:43:24 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I've sometimes wondered how much Annie's unflappability is truly part of her character. It was strongest in the early chapters, when she was still dealing with the pain of her mother's death and at her most seemingly emotionless standpoint. Also, when she first came to Gunnerkrigg, the only etheric beings whom she had met were the Guides, who were friendly to her. The first two etheric beings whom she met at the Court, Shadow2 and Basil, were also friendly, as was Mort when he showed up soon afterwards. But then Annie began meeting etheric beings who were less well-disposed to her and whom her etheric abilities couldn't protect her from - Reynardine when he tried to possess her, Jeanne, Ysengrin. (In each case, Annie was rescued from their attacks, in Chapters Three, Eight, and Fourteen respectively, by someone else.) A lot of her unflappability may have stemmed from her not realizing how dangerous the etheric world can be, and the discovery of how naive her approach to it was could have drained much of that response away. There's a passage in Sir Walter Scott's "Ivanhoe" about the Lady Rowena that parallels this interpretation: "Hitherto, Rowena had sustained her part in this trying scene [her abduction by de Bracy] with undismayed courage, but it was because she had not considered the danger as serious and imminent. Her disposition was naturally... mild, timid, and gentle; but it had been tempered, and, as it were hardened, by the circumstances of her education. Accustomed to see the will of all... give way before her wishes, she had acquired that sort of courage and self-confidence which arises from the habitual and constant deference of the circle in which we move. She could scarce conceive the possibility of her will being opposed, far less that of its being treated with total disregard. Her haughtiness and habit of domination was, therefore, a fictitious character, induced over that which was natural to her, and it deserted her when her eyes were opened to the sense of her own danger..." So Annie's finally learned to fear. I would've expected in earlier chapters for this to just wash over her like rain off an umbrella, but she's clearly less unflappable now. Goodness, she's becoming more and more human. As for Ys.. I think he feels possessive of the forest just because he can control the trees. Coyote did give him power over the trees of the forest. |
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Jan 25, 2010 15:44:05 GMT
I wonder if she'll keep being afraid, or if she'll snap at some point and become angry instead.
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Post by the bandit on Jan 25, 2010 15:47:23 GMT
I can't wait for coyote to toss out a rolled up news paper to her now. Hilarious! |
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Post by coyotagoat on Jan 25, 2010 16:24:17 GMT
? So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's? I think it's just Yssy being protective. Batman often refers to Gotham as "my city", but he doesn't think he owns it. (yes I just used Batman as an analogy) |
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Post by Ulysses on Jan 25, 2010 16:55:09 GMT
? So is Gillitie Coyote's or Yssie's? I get the impression that, when the Court was formed, Ysengrin was firmly on the side of the forest, and Reynard went with the Court; Coyote is technically an outsider here, being from the Americas, but he's much more powerful than Reynard and Ysengrin. I guess he just prefers it in the forest. I'd say Ysengrin's the real lord of the forest, and that he just defers to Coyote. Well Ysengrin and Reynardine are originally from France, so he doesn't exactly have nationality dibs on the Forest. I agree with Coyotagoat's Batman analogy. |
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Post by lissibith on Jan 25, 2010 18:48:07 GMT
Looks like even Annie's unflapability has it's upper limits. I've sometimes wondered how much Annie's unflappability is truly part of her character. It was strongest in the early chapters, when she was still dealing with the pain of her mother's death and at her most seemingly emotionless standpoint. Also, when she first came to Gunnerkrigg, the only etheric beings whom she had met were the Guides, who were friendly to her. The first two etheric beings whom she met at the Court, Shadow2 and Basil, were also friendly, as was Mort when he showed up soon afterwards. But then Annie began meeting etheric beings who were less well-disposed to her and whom her etheric abilities couldn't protect her from - Reynardine when he tried to possess her, Jeanne, Ysengrin. (In each case, Annie was rescued from their attacks, in Chapters Three, Eight, and Fourteen respectively, by someone else.) A lot of her unflappability may have stemmed from her not realizing how dangerous the etheric world can be, and the discovery of how naive her approach to it was could have drained much of that response away. There's a passage in Sir Walter Scott's "Ivanhoe" about the Lady Rowena that parallels this interpretation: "Hitherto, Rowena had sustained her part in this trying scene [her abduction by de Bracy] with undismayed courage, but it was because she had not considered the danger as serious and imminent. Her disposition was naturally... mild, timid, and gentle; but it had been tempered, and, as it were hardened, by the circumstances of her education. Accustomed to see the will of all... give way before her wishes, she had acquired that sort of courage and self-confidence which arises from the habitual and constant deference of the circle in which we move. She could scarce conceive the possibility of her will being opposed, far less that of its being treated with total disregard. Her haughtiness and habit of domination was, therefore, a fictitious character, induced over that which was natural to her, and it deserted her when her eyes were opened to the sense of her own danger..." That's an interesting thought. I'll admit, I never thought so much about unflappability being an inherent trait of Annie's but rather her even-headedness being an extension of her absolute trust in her mother and what her mother told her. I may have to rethink that stance... or perhaps combine them. Well, for all that, she didn't take a single step backward. That's guts no matter where they come from. Good show Annie! |
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Post by the bandit on Jan 25, 2010 19:10:36 GMT
Batman analogy for thread win.
Welcome to the forums, Lissi.
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Post by penguinfactory on Jan 25, 2010 20:43:34 GMT
Building on what I said earlier, I think it's a strength of Tom's writing that Annie is acting this way. Far too often (and not just in webcomics) authors seem to choose one dominent character trait- a bad attitude, shyness, confidence, whatever- and that's how the character reacts to every situation, no matter how far removed from usual experience it is.
Also, the way Tom drew the wooden "muscles" in Ysengrin's arm in the first panel is awesome.
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Post by unctuous on Jan 25, 2010 21:44:43 GMT
If she were anyone else...he'd offer her some of that delightful raw fish! Unfortunately, no fish for her.  |
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Post by xanbcoo on Jan 25, 2010 23:20:48 GMT
Building on what I said earlier, I think it's a strength of Tom's writing that Annie is acting this way. Far too often (and not just in webcomics) authors seem to choose one dominent character trait- a bad attitude, shyness, confidence, whatever- and that's how the character reacts to every situation, no matter how far removed from usual experience it is. I agree with this. It would be easy to make Annie a conventional fantasy hero who wouldn't bat an eye at danger and treat the extraordinary as mundane. It's interesting to compare her reaction here verses her reaction when she first met Basil the Minotaur. I think it shows how Tom has grown as a writer. Annie has transformed from an archetype into a multifaceted character. Perhaps that's intentional on Tom's part since Annie has been around "normal" children her own age. Who knows. |
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