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Post by Yin on Aug 3, 2009 7:01:06 GMT
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mike
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Post by mike on Aug 3, 2009 7:03:44 GMT
I assume the row of windows on the bottom of the frame are the train that Annie & friends are taking on their trip?
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Post by edzepp on Aug 3, 2009 7:04:05 GMT
Ooh. Aah.
The detail on this page is terrific. I like the subtle details and symbols on Rey's fur.
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Post by Casey on Aug 3, 2009 7:04:21 GMT
I like the designs on Renard. Also, Annie's hair, is it a different shade from normal? (Including when we've seen her in the ethereum before, for those who were about to respond "duh she's in the ethereum")
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Post by four on Aug 3, 2009 7:07:43 GMT
Lovely art, as it often is. I wonder what people are going to have a problem with (as Tom is predicting), if at all.
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Post by roboticelf on Aug 3, 2009 7:18:23 GMT
I like the designs on Renard. Also, Annie's hair, is it a different shade from normal? (Including when we've seen her in the ethereum before, for those who were about to respond "duh she's in the ethereum") If you go back through the previous ethereum pages, it is an obvious change, but it does follow a previously less obvious pattern. one, two, three, four. Of course this might have been pointed out before, I don't follow these forums that much. As for what it means, I would assume it's a manifestation of increasing power/confidence with regard to the stone.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Aug 3, 2009 7:22:49 GMT
Boy I assumed they would take a school bus, but a train would be awesome! I absolutely love trains.
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Post by walkingdust on Aug 3, 2009 7:25:37 GMT
I can't help but think that the "problem" Tom is predicting is related to the significant changes in the friendship of Rey and Annie and how obvious it has been in recent pages. It doesn't look like Rey will be present for this chapter, but this would not be the first time we have been tricked.
He knows there are radically different opinions about that acquaintanceship, so he must be able to predict that when the truth is revealed there will be disappointed (or angry) readers. Not that he has any reason to care about that, but the issue can become quite a show of internet drama.
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Post by edzepp on Aug 3, 2009 8:25:01 GMT
This one page really shows how much Annie and Rey's relationship has grown over time. You can sense a genuine fondness between the two. Rey almost seems like a father figure when he says that last line. He's all like "Oh don't go worrying about an old man like me, I'll be fine. Just go have a good time with your friends and enjoy your youth." It's rather lovely.
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Post by guyy on Aug 3, 2009 8:50:33 GMT
If you go back through the previous ethereum pages, it is an obvious change, but it does follow a previously less obvious pattern. one, two, three, four. It's not just the hair color, either; the etherium-indicating cut on her face gets noticeably fainter and thinner over those 4 comics (though you can't see it in the 3rd one). Hm... Also, I should say that this is one of the nicest-looking pages yet; certainly the best chapter-opening page so far.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Aug 3, 2009 9:36:52 GMT
It may be my own lack of imagination but I can currently think of only two possible reasons people would have serious problems with the chapter. - a character being revealed as much nastier than currently expected (e.g. if it's revealed definitively that Reynardine *did* attempt to kill Annie - or if Surma was a villain, or if Eglamore's a pedophile or something. I find these rather unlikely, mind you.)
- teenage homosexuality -- whether by Annie or Gamma/Zimmy or whatever. I've read past threads, and I have noticed a portion of this comic's readership seeming to find the idea of teenage homosexual interest as somehow more "creepy" than teenage heterosexual interest (which we've seen a number of definite examples already)
But I'm rather guessing that I'm just lacking in imagination here, and it'll probably be some third reason I'm not expecting.
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Post by Klex on Aug 3, 2009 9:41:10 GMT
That, or he misplaced a speech bubble.
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Post by todd on Aug 3, 2009 10:47:56 GMT
Or the chapter may contain some story-telling quirk that might confuse readers (such as the flashbacks in Chapter Eighteen, which many people had trouble following despite the clearly visible rounded edges of the panels).
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Post by Rasselas on Aug 3, 2009 11:27:51 GMT
What a beautiful new page.
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Post by pepoluan on Aug 3, 2009 12:40:39 GMT
This one page really shows how much Annie and Rey's relationship has grown over time. You can sense a genuine fondness between the two. Rey almost seems like a father figure when he says that last line. He's all like "Oh don't go worrying about an old man like me, I'll be fine. Just go have a good time with your friends and enjoy your youth." It's rather lovely. I second your opinion. Annie stammered again in the 3rd balloon as Rey quickly intuit what Annie's actually up to (leaving the stone behind so that she can visit Rey from time to time). I almost expect Rey to give Annie a wet-nose-kiss on the lower end of the page (there's no panel, kinda hard to point to the exact location). Edit: Added some analysis
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ecomono
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Post by ecomono on Aug 3, 2009 17:03:20 GMT
If you go back through the previous ethereum pages, it is an obvious change, but it does follow a previously less obvious pattern. one, two, three, four. It's not just the hair color, either; the etherium-indicating cut on her face gets noticeably fainter and thinner over those 4 comics (though you can't see it in the 3rd one). Hm... I went back to check this and while doing so, I actually noticed something completely different about how Jeanne's slash is progressing. Namely, how in the world did that dot get there?Edit: Also, I'd prefer not to discuss what people might be annoyed about for now. Feels like a bridge we should cross when we come to it, rather than amplifying it by speculation. But that's just me. *shrug*
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Post by Inugami on Aug 3, 2009 17:23:47 GMT
I found the word bubble placement confusing. Since none of them are connected, I thought that each one was a reply to the last.
After looking over them a few times, I believe this is not the case.
Ren: You didn't have to leave your stone behind. + I have plenty of books to read. Annie: I'm just... just checking in. Who knows what you might get up to if you get bored? Ren: Haha! Go and have fun with your friends, child.
I think the bubbles should either be visibly connected, or Annie's set should have a visual element to distinguish them from Renard's set.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Aug 3, 2009 17:45:03 GMT
I think the bubbles should either be visibly connected, or Annie's set should have a visual element to distinguish them from Renard's set. They do have that visual element. Annie's bubbles are slightly more pinkish than Reynardine's -- though I guess it must appears less clearly on some monitors depending on their gamma.
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Post by Casey on Aug 3, 2009 17:52:11 GMT
No, Gamma doesn't have anything to do with it. She's too busy chasing off Zimmy's nightmares.
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Post by Per on Aug 3, 2009 18:13:44 GMT
This is a representation of gloss, not an actual mark on her skin. Something similar was in the Power Station chapter after the rain and Tom had to explain what it was after people drew attention to it.
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Post by pepoluan on Aug 3, 2009 18:38:07 GMT
I think the bubbles should either be visibly connected, or Annie's set should have a visual element to distinguish them from Renard's set. They do have that visual element. Annie's bubbles are slightly more pinkish than Reynardine's -- though I guess it must appears less clearly on some monitors depending on their gamma. Yup. I have to lower my head until my chin touches the desk to see the color differences.
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Post by ckneller on Aug 3, 2009 18:43:27 GMT
No, Gamma doesn't have anything to do with it. She's too busy chasing off Zimmy's nightmares. Ouch
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Post by Casey on Aug 3, 2009 19:06:16 GMT
They do have that visual element. Annie's bubbles are slightly more pinkish than Reynardine's -- though I guess it must appears less clearly on some monitors depending on their gamma. Yup. I have to lower my head until my chin touches the desk to see the color differences. Whoa, really? I would strongly recommend to you and anyone else out there who is having this problem that you run whatever color calibration software you have on your computer, because not only is this not good, but you must be missing out on a TON of the subtlety and beauty of Tom's artwork. I just try to imagine what it would be like to read, for example, Coyote Stories, without my color being properly adjusted. Just the thought of that brings a tear of sadness to my eye. If you have an nVidia graphics card like I do, then you'll find the color calibration settings in the nVidia control panel. I can get it by just right clicking on the desktop. And of course, once you have your color (and brightness and contrast and gamma) set correctly.... please go re-read the whole comic. It'll give you a new appreciation, I'm sure.
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Post by cunningjames on Aug 3, 2009 19:13:14 GMT
But I'm rather guessing that I'm just lacking in imagination here, and it'll probably be some third reason I'm not expecting. I'm surprised no one has realized it: clearly, it will be revealed that Jones is Antimony's father. Remember when she's telling the headmaster about how much Ysengrin has distorted his body, and he says "Coming from you, that disturbs me greatly"? Reference to sexual reassignment. You heard it here first, folks.
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Post by Per on Aug 3, 2009 19:22:38 GMT
You heard it here first, folks. Actually, that's been said a few times.
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Post by cunningjames on Aug 3, 2009 19:34:53 GMT
Then slay me in punishment for my naivety. I shall leave the post for posterity, so that all may learn from my mistake! Do not be like me: search.
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Post by pepoluan on Aug 3, 2009 19:59:47 GMT
Whoa, really? I would strongly recommend to you and anyone else out there who is having this problem that you run whatever color calibration software you have on your computer, because not only is this not good, but you must be missing out on a TON of the subtlety and beauty of Tom's artwork. I just try to imagine what it would be like to read, for example, Coyote Stories, without my color being properly adjusted. Just the thought of that brings a tear of sadness to my eye. If you have an nVidia graphics card like I do, then you'll find the color calibration settings in the nVidia control panel. I can get it by just right clicking on the desktop. And of course, once you have your color (and brightness and contrast and gamma) set correctly.... please go re-read the whole comic. It'll give you a new appreciation, I'm sure. Actually, I've done that the first time I installed my nVidia card. I'll just attribute it to suck-y monitors.
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Post by Ulysses on Aug 3, 2009 20:12:47 GMT
Look at the shading and the colours on this page! The art is so beautiful.
I'm a little worried that Rey is only being nice, and subsequently becoming closer to Annie, so that she'll trust him and allow him to leave the doll body, and that after that he'll be all mean again. Given what we've seen of Rey I don't actually think that will happen but it's preying on my mind. We readers have grown to trust Rey at the same time as Annie, so I'd certainly feel a little betrayed if Rey turned back into a baddie.
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Post by ding on Aug 3, 2009 20:58:31 GMT
Reyardine's pattern: is it Native American deco or does it imply circuitry? Something else?
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Post by Ulysses on Aug 3, 2009 21:25:28 GMT
Reyardine's pattern: is it Native American deco or does it imply circuitry? Something else? Reynardine is a robot! You all heard it!
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