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Post by Yin on Jul 13, 2009 7:00:51 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 13, 2009 7:12:55 GMT
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Post by rallan on Jul 13, 2009 7:19:50 GMT
Ah well, that's the end of that I guess. Unless Reynardine plans on dropping a bombshell it's probably about time to start a new chapter. Hopefully with a less fiendishly misleading cover page
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Post by Yin on Jul 13, 2009 7:27:45 GMT
No antimony symbol- still some pages left before chapter's end.
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Post by wanderer on Jul 13, 2009 10:04:37 GMT
Annie, what reason is there NOT to tell her? She may be able to help, you know.
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Post by penguinfactory on Jul 13, 2009 10:14:27 GMT
I think Jones might just know more than she's letting on.
Also, Tom's backgrounds are getting super good.
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Post by supasasson on Jul 13, 2009 10:37:58 GMT
So it seems Jones is not a fan of wild speculation...
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Post by todd on Jul 13, 2009 10:40:08 GMT
Annie, what reason is there NOT to tell her? She may be able to help, you know. Old habits are hard to break, I suspect.
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Post by Per on Jul 13, 2009 11:17:29 GMT
It's been hinted Annie feels a personal responsibility to help Jeanne, so just maybe she wants a good grasp of the situation before she would risk someone taking the whole thing off her hands.
On a more practical level, it's likely the Court would be more interested in the underground chamber itself than Jeanne's ghost. If they were to cart everything off, it would mean Kat couldn't be study the robots, and the robots might not be able to visit the portrait, which would make them sad.
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Jul 13, 2009 11:42:15 GMT
She probably doesn't completely trust Jones. I wouldn't either.
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Post by zoe on Jul 13, 2009 11:50:04 GMT
Annie has the best facial expressions this chapter.
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Post by strainofthought on Jul 13, 2009 14:10:40 GMT
Panel six is possibly the most expressive Jones has ever been. This is something she cares about! I don't know if anyone has done this before, but I realized the angle on Jones's face was very good for a comparison with Jeanne's portrait: For whatever reason, Tom is definitely drawing them with the exact same face.
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Post by pepoluan on Jul 13, 2009 14:55:52 GMT
Panel six is possibly the most expressive Jones has ever been. This is something she cares about! I don't know if anyone has done this before, but I realized the angle on Jones's face was very good for a comparison with Jeanne's portrait: For whatever reason, Tom is definitely drawing them with the exact same face. Well, Jeanne's a ghost, so she's dead. So we can nip the thought that Jones is Jeanne in the bud. As to Jones' face becoming expressive, I think it's more expressive in panel 2.
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Post by MesÃas on Jul 13, 2009 15:16:50 GMT
Annie, what reason is there NOT to tell her? She may be able to help, you know. The same reason of why she doesn't ever tell something to any other adult. So it seems Jones is not a fan of wild speculation... Just like me.
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Post by pepoluan on Jul 13, 2009 15:21:10 GMT
I still can't get over the "hidden significance" of the Headmaster's last words in [288]! That, and what strainofthought posted... maybe Jones did something to herself back in the days of Jeanne that she becomes immortal? Uh... if I keep expanding on that theme, I might have to scoot over to the Wild Spec thread...
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 15:24:31 GMT
Panel six is possibly the most expressive Jones has ever been. This is something she cares about! I don't know if anyone has done this before, but I realized the angle on Jones's face was very good for a comparison with Jeanne's portrait: For whatever reason, Tom is definitely drawing them with the exact same face. Well, Jeanne's a ghost, so she's dead. So we can nip the thought that Jones is Jeanne in the bud. Jones is a robot, how many times has that been said??! *joking* Though it would make perfect sense for Diego to make the "ultimate android (gynoid)" in the image of his lost love... I sort of like the other wild spec that said Jones is what remained of Jeanne when her soul was trapped down in the ravine, and that's why she's so emotionless. ...I don't agree with the theory, because in my mind Jones is not devoid of emotion, but I like that people are thinking outside the box nonetheless. My own wild spec, not as juicy: Jeanne was in fact a medium in her time. This has been said by others but here's my new reason why I like this theory. Recently Tom did two uStream sessions where he drew Parley and Annie in portrait style complete with fancy dress and weapons, just like Jeanne's portrait. Could be completely seeing what we want to see, but, it stands to reason that if having your portrait painted in that fashion is something that the Court does for mediums, then Jeanne would have been a medium. I know, I know... remember this is Wild Spec.
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Post by Casey on Jul 13, 2009 15:26:46 GMT
Wow that's odd... while I was composing that last response, I totally thought I was in the Wild Spec thread...
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Post by pepoluan on Jul 13, 2009 15:44:17 GMT
Wow that's odd... while I was composing that last response, I totally thought I was in the Wild Spec thread... The border between reality and aether... I mean Story Discussion and Wild Spec blurs really fast Anyways, if Jones is *really* Diego's creation, I doubt she would not be equipped with a complete account of the Court's beginning.
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Post by Tenebrais on Jul 13, 2009 16:15:09 GMT
Hey, Wild Speculation is just the story discussion that hasn't happened yet. And may never do.
There is a difference between Jeanne's and Jones' appearance: Jeanne's eyes a green. Jones' are black. That said, Annie and Surma seem to be the only people whose eyes have colour.
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Post by pepoluan on Jul 13, 2009 17:15:19 GMT
Hey, Wild Speculation is just the story discussion that hasn't happened yet. And may never do. There is a difference between Jeanne's and Jones' appearance: Jeanne's eyes a green. Jones' are black. That said, Annie and Surma seem to be the only people whose eyes have colour. Janet's got green eyes. At least in the early chapters.
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Post by Tenebrais on Jul 13, 2009 17:38:03 GMT
That she does, even in chapter 19. Nonetheless, it's a very limited number of characters that have eye colour, so the difference between Jones' and Jeanne's eyes could be put down to the art style.
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Post by zingbat on Jul 13, 2009 17:47:11 GMT
I don't know about the whole Jeanne/Jones thing (although looking at the two pictures side-by-side above, I have to say that although they have some similarities, they don't really look all that much alike, to me)... I just wanted to say that I love Reynardine with the flower and I hope he keeps it for a while.
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Post by bisected8 on Jul 13, 2009 18:51:40 GMT
That she does, even in chapter 19. Nonetheless, it's a very limited number of characters that have eye colour, so the difference between Jones' and Jeanne's eyes could be put down to the art style. I think Tom's style is to give a character irides in proportion to how important the character is to the story. There is a bit of an eye them to the comic after all.
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Post by pepoluan on Jul 13, 2009 19:17:06 GMT
BTW, panel 6 has been iconified I totally *heart* Jones ;D
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Post by Azeltir on Jul 13, 2009 19:23:44 GMT
Jones certainly has shown herself to be a much more sympathetic and intriguing character this chapter. I'm really wondering what's going to happen on Wednesday - we've really seem to hit the denouement today.
Awesome lighting in this strip, too!
Ben
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Post by hawkeye on Jul 13, 2009 22:25:44 GMT
I like the idea that Jeanne was a medium. I've been assuming that the Seed Bismuth was a medium. I mean, I'm assuming this big meeting between humans and the inhabitants of the forest would pretty much require one.
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Post by todd on Jul 13, 2009 22:33:04 GMT
It's been hinted Annie feels a personal responsibility to help Jeanne, so just maybe she wants a good grasp of the situation before she would risk someone taking the whole thing off her hands. Of course, in light of Annie's past actions, letting the Court take over the Jeanne situation might not entirely be a bad idea. When Annie's tried handling things herself before rather than going to the teachers about them, the results have often been disastrous: 1. Confronted with Shadow2's problem of being unable to cross the bridge on his own, Annie decides to send a robot across the bridge, thereby angering the Woods. We know now that if she'd approached the grown-ups instead, Anja could have used her blinker stone to signal the inhabitants of Gillitie, who could have taken Shadow2 home without so much trouble. 2. Annie mistakenly believes Reynardine in Sivo's body to be a mistreated monster and tries to rescue him herself; she almost gets possessed and thereby killed as a result. If instead she had told the grown-ups about her encounter with him, they could have told her all about Reynardine's deceptiveness and that he was a criminal under arrest rather than an innocent "dragon" being picked on by a bullying knight. On the other hand, the Guides want Annie to do it, and she does have experience at handling souls who've been stuck on the Earth after dying and were unable to move on to the afterlife. More experience, probably, than anyone else at the court has.
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Post by Max on Jul 14, 2009 0:35:37 GMT
1. Confronted with Shadow2's problem of being unable to cross the bridge on his own, Annie decides to send a robot across the bridge, thereby angering the Woods. We know now that if she'd approached the grown-ups instead, Anja could have used her blinker stone to signal the inhabitants of Gillitie, who could have taken Shadow2 home without so much trouble. She did attempt to tell the faculty about, but Shadow 2 did not welcome their presence at all. This doesn't invalidate your point at all, of course, and I only just noticed how odd her seeking help is in retrospect. That she does, even in chapter 19. Nonetheless, it's a very limited number of characters that have eye colour, so the difference between Jones' and Jeanne's eyes could be put down to the art style. It could also be that the "artist" of the painting chose to show eye color more clearly. And Tom simply reflected this when he drew the painting. Tom mentioned here that he has an eye motif going on, so there might be something more going on here than just art style.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Jul 14, 2009 7:35:31 GMT
I think Antimony just doesn't want Jones and the faculty in her and Kat's secret clubhouse. Well, it may not be that secret but that's the impression I get. I know that if I had a warehouse full of robots I wouldn't tell just anybody about it.
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Post by todd on Jul 14, 2009 11:42:29 GMT
She did attempt to tell the faculty about, but Shadow 2 did not welcome their presence at all. This doesn't invalidate your point at all, of course, and I only just noticed how odd her seeking help is in retrospect. Yes. But Annie apparently never even considered, after talking to Shadow2 for the first time, persuading him to stop hiding himself from the teachers so that she could make a second attempt at approaching them and tell them about his problem.
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