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Post by Yin on Jun 26, 2009 7:00:54 GMT
Ah. Looks like Jeanne may well be somewhere around. Also explains why the bismuth symbol is all over the Court. (not around next update)
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Post by shadrach on Jun 26, 2009 7:03:31 GMT
"Why Jones, I didn't know you cared. But mightn't you get in trouble, me being underage and all?"
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Post by edzepp on Jun 26, 2009 7:03:57 GMT
Is Jones trying to play matchmaker or something?
Also, yeah. This page explains a lot.
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Post by eightyfour on Jun 26, 2009 7:06:30 GMT
I was already wondering where the heck the choclates came from anyway, but seriously Jones, a single red rose? Are you trying to make Parley jealous?
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Post by Casey on Jun 26, 2009 7:06:54 GMT
Well that settles the question of whether Diego was there at the beginning, I guess. Unless his ancestors looked a LOT like him.
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Post by Casey on Jun 26, 2009 7:07:54 GMT
I was already wondering where the heck the choclates came from anyway, but seriously Jones, a single red rose? Are you trying to make Parley jealous? ...The chocolates came from Dr. Disaster, like 8 pages ago. Or were you kidding?
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Post by popo on Jun 26, 2009 7:18:33 GMT
think he means where did the action of giving smitface the chocolates come from
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Post by my2k on Jun 26, 2009 7:24:54 GMT
wow, how pretty.
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Post by penguinfactory on Jun 26, 2009 7:44:52 GMT
I smell a plot McGuffin!
I bet it's Annie's blinker stone. Bet it is. Definitely.
Okay, probably not.
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Post by zingbat on Jun 26, 2009 7:47:33 GMT
Well that settles the question of whether Diego was there at the beginning, I guess. Unless his ancestors looked a LOT like him. Yeah! Look, Annie and Reynardine recognize him, too; in the second panel they're looking at each other and Annie's face is all "Holy crap it's DIEGO." I hope they discuss/further investigate this topic very soon! ...honestly, I'm almost more interested in finding out Jeanne & Diego's backstory and the origins of the ghost at the Annan Waters than I am in learning how the divide came about (does that make me a bad person? ...alas).
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Post by biggerj on Jun 26, 2009 8:06:02 GMT
I think I know why this simulation is being run. Smitty's power is to create order out of chaos, right? Well, a piece of missing information could be called chaotic. Maybe he's here to glitch the simulation in exactly such a way that it becomes an accurate historical record, thus revealing what the Seed Bismuth that started the Court actually was. Except maybe the glitch only occurs after they've turned to leave so we find out long before they do. You know, for dramatic effect.
Although the picture above is a nice and suitable symbolization. The cubes represent order and logic, which science are all about. THe rainbow represents the explanation of wonders (in a rainbow's case, it's the visible spectrum).
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Post by Count Casimir on Jun 26, 2009 8:07:34 GMT
I'd guess that she wants Smit to use that rose for something. But then I'm wrong more often than not.
As for the Bismuth thing, I'd hypothesize that it was named because of the Court's love affair with the element and not the other way around, since they have no idea what it ACTUALLY was.
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Post by biggerj on Jun 26, 2009 8:11:16 GMT
Well, since the Seed Bismuth was probably the first science experiment ever conducted in Gillitie Wood, maybe they started small. A simple chemical reaction, perhaps? The equivalent of a papier-mâché volcano? Or maybe a neat trick with a magnet? Like the induction of an electrical current?
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Post by Nicer Atom on Jun 26, 2009 8:23:23 GMT
Also, a red rose has several meanings in alchemy, but I don't see how any of them apply here. Except, you know, love to make George jealous. Since no one has put one up: That is the symbol for bismuth, in case anyone was wondering.
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Post by biggerj on Jun 26, 2009 8:28:13 GMT
Maybe Jones expects Smitty to glitch the simulation with an outside object. As I said before, his order-making power would mean any glitches he causes would create order. And since this is a historical record, if Smitty to were to glitch the sim, it'd probably become more accurate.
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Post by bellerophon on Jun 26, 2009 8:31:04 GMT
I'm a bit confused about positioning. Annie and Reynardine are in front of Hat-man and Collar-man, Diego's behind Hatty and Collar in the last comic, and Annie and Reynardine are behind Diego with no sign of motion.
Meh, I guess they just moved?
Jones is, as always, totally inscrutable.
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Post by eightyfour on Jun 26, 2009 8:33:22 GMT
I was already wondering where the heck the choclates came from anyway, but seriously Jones, a single red rose? Are you trying to make Parley jealous? ...The chocolates came from Dr. Disaster, like 8 pages ago. Or were you kidding? Hmmkay, now I feel stupid. Just re-checked those pages. I saw the flowers, but somehow totally didn't notice the box of choclates there. I may need new glasses.
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Post by uskuri on Jun 26, 2009 8:35:46 GMT
I think that its quite possible that Diego being here is not particularly important, when compared to the fact that Diego's undeniable presence in this simulation means that there is some active record of him in the court. Somebody else knows about Diego, which means that its quite possible that somebody else knows about Jeanne. Even if we don't learn as much as we want right now, the fact that Diego is in this simulation nearly guarantees that someone out there has the answers.
Coyote, for starters, leaps to mind.
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Post by Ulysses on Jun 26, 2009 9:59:56 GMT
That hadn't occured to me yet, Uskuri, but it's a very good point. Somebody made this, so somebody must know, or used to know, who the main players were and what they looked like. Where did they get their information? I am now very intrigued. As for why people appear to be wearing mismatched costume, see my other post
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Post by todd on Jun 26, 2009 10:53:23 GMT
I'd like to add something else to the time period question.
Jones stated that the humans who would eventually found the Court came to Gillitie Wood apparently as exiles or refugees. We know that they were interested in delving into science, and especially the etheric matters often called "magic".
That suggests that they might have fled to the Wood after being suspected by others of being guilty of sorcery and witchcraft, especially since early attempts at scientific investigation often were mistaken as delving into sorcery. In a century before the 18th, this would be probable. But in the 18th century, at least in England, the Age of Reason was established, and while many people among the lower classes probably still had such superstitious fears, scientific investigation had become far more respectable. So the human founders would have had less reason to fear being at the receiving end of a witch-hunt.
Unless their investigations were too obviously "fringe science" for the day. Or unless their need to take flight was not entirely because of their work. Perhaps they'd been the losing side in a political struggle and had to hide in the forest to save themselves from being hanged for treason.
Or maybe British history in the world of "Gunnerkrigg Court" has some strong differences with British history in our world. We don't know as yet.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jun 26, 2009 11:50:13 GMT
Seed bismuth? The Court taking root? Interesting choice of words, Jones.
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Post by bisected8 on Jun 26, 2009 12:29:51 GMT
Did the mention of "seed" make anyone think of the results of burying a Tic Toc?
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Post by King Mir on Jun 26, 2009 14:21:55 GMT
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Post by sandjosieph on Jun 26, 2009 14:45:07 GMT
Woah woah, does this mean that court was actually grown? Like a plant!?
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Post by bisected8 on Jun 26, 2009 14:59:45 GMT
Well it does have a p-
...no, I won't.
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Post by kevkevonfire on Jun 26, 2009 14:59:51 GMT
So the Court has artificial-looking buildings, people, robots, and science, while the Woods have trees, animals, nature spirits, and magic.
But the Court was grown from a seed, noone seems to know the entire depths of either side, it appears the robots sustain themselves, and the Court studies the etheric sciences, which is just a hair shy of magic.
So it's seems to be just a difference in time of creation, physical appearance, and occupants.
Methinks the Court/Woods duality does not run nearly as deep as appearances would suggest...
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Post by bisected8 on Jun 26, 2009 15:01:27 GMT
I'd say the real difference between the two is;
# The court wants to know how things work. # The forest don't.
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Post by Faenval on Jun 26, 2009 15:15:44 GMT
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Post by clementine on Jun 26, 2009 15:54:11 GMT
There's probably a fair amount of manufactured differences between the Court and the Forest. The only comparison I can think of is political parties, where one will call the other something that's not completely true, but it will stick and both sides are irritated at the other and no one knows quite how it started.
Geez, I'm not very clear, I'll fix this as it comes to me.
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Post by ecomono on Jun 26, 2009 16:46:15 GMT
I had a feeling the Court was procedurally generated, rather than built. Interesting. Edit: And on that note... Did the mention of "seed" make anyone think of the results of burying a Tic Toc? This makes me wonder if the Tic Tocs might be part of the Court itself, (since we know it's not an invention of the people at the Court).
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