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Post by edzepp on Mar 23, 2009 7:01:41 GMT
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Post by Neats on Mar 23, 2009 7:11:37 GMT
Interesting how Anthony seems disconnected from the group, standing apart and looking away from everyone else, and then trailing way behind in the back when the group is walking away.
Also, that girl is clearly not Jones. I mean, it looks like she might even be giggling. Even those who don't believe Tom's own insistence that she's not Jones should be convinced by this.
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Post by edzepp on Mar 23, 2009 7:15:03 GMT
That won't stop people from speculating anyway. It's what this forum is built on, for better or worse.  |
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Post by penguinfactory on Mar 23, 2009 7:24:29 GMT
Hey, we're actually seeing Anthony and mystery girl in the narrative! With, like dialogue and stuff (next page?). Maybe we'll even find out her name!
I am excited.
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Post by alya1989262 on Mar 23, 2009 7:25:17 GMT
In panel four, while the group's walking away, James is standing right behind Surma, Don behind Anja, but Anthony and That Girl don't look close.
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Post by Klex on Mar 23, 2009 7:33:10 GMT
I predict that Beardguy and his Chekhov's beard is Jack's father.
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Post by Refugee on Mar 23, 2009 7:38:00 GMT
The photographer is portrayed with unusual realism. I have a superstition that this means the character is based on a real person in the life of the cartoonist. What brand is his camera? I want it to be " Foglio", but I can't really make that come out right. |
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Post by Count Casimir on Mar 23, 2009 7:47:14 GMT
YAY!
We ARE starting right off. Time for a betting pool on whether or not we'll find out who the girl is this chapter!
I'm going to guess we're getting a name, but only a first name.
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Post by ferrusdominus on Mar 23, 2009 8:19:26 GMT
not Jones but perhaps the template upon which the Jones android was built?
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Post by Goatmon on Mar 23, 2009 8:32:15 GMT
not Jones but perhaps the template upon which the Jones android was built? Assuming she really is a robot. So far, that's just a guess by Annie. |
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Post by biggerj on Mar 23, 2009 8:39:21 GMT
I't's pretty obvious now where Annie gets her emotionless side from.
Also, there's something I've noticed that might just be me. When Annie is showing emotion, she somehow seems older and more mature that when she looks emotionless. And the same seems to be true of her parents - Surma (the redhead, for those who are uninitiated) looks like she's the oldest and most mature, despite likely being in the same year as her friends (as Tom said, Gunnerkrigg students tend to make friends with those in the same year and house), and Anthony (in the upper-right, again for the uninitiated), to me at least, looks to be slightly younger than the others.
My theory, if this all isn't just due to my point of view: Surma is a fountain of emotion, while Anthony is quite the opposite, and Annie has elements of both. Surma and Annie's emotions make them appear to be slightly older, more mature, and all-around more human, while Anthony and Annie's emotionlessness makes them seem slightly younger, a bit less mature, and a little less human.
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Post by istanbul on Mar 23, 2009 10:14:18 GMT
under "what good is speculating alone in your room?"
some pointless observations:
1. the girl has the same makeup as surma
2. her eyes look like anthony's, and she has similar hair.
3. does dragon slaying turn your hair black?
4. at first I thought anthony just wandered off, but it seems like he's following along behind the group
That's all I've got. It was a really nice page.
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Post by snes on Mar 23, 2009 11:31:32 GMT
What I find odd is how all of them (except Anthony, which isn't surprising considering how devoid of emotion he is) are smiling in this page, but only about half of them are smiling in the photo. Looking forward to this chapter.  |
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Post by UbiquitousDragon on Mar 23, 2009 11:35:09 GMT
3. does dragon slaying turn your hair black? When hair's cut short it goes darker at the roots, as it's usually light that, um, lightens it. So my friend would be very blonde if her hair was longer, as would be her brother and mother, both of whom have very short hair. I just love the dynamics (or lack thereof with Anthony) of the post photo scene. And the opening panel, ingenious! |
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Mar 23, 2009 12:12:32 GMT
Wow, this really is going to be a complete flashback chapter! It's kinda weird seeing the people in the photo as characters and not just still portraits. And now where finally going to get a glimpse of what Anthony was like. Or what he is like at all.
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Post by Yin on Mar 23, 2009 12:13:13 GMT
Grumpy dude, eh. Now, how did he get pulled into the photo? One of the girls? James and Don don't seem to be attending to him.
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Post by Azeltir on Mar 23, 2009 13:36:05 GMT
I find it funny how one of the questions on meccanica's joke image in the title page discussion thread is answered in panel 2.
And regardless, this is a brilliant way to start the chapter.
With respect to Anthony, Yin, I kind of expect that he'd actually want to be in the picture himself. Just because he's not very friendly doesn't mean that he wouldn't want to participate in the formalities of his friendship.
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Post by mjh on Mar 23, 2009 14:01:48 GMT
Assuming she really is a robot. So far, that's just a guess by Annie. I have always assumed that to be a tongue-in-cheek remark anyway. There was some speculation about Jones being much older than her looks suggest, and I tend to agree. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we should see Jones in the upcoming flashback scenes, as a teacher and looking just as she does now. But that wouldn’t imply she was an android. |
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Post by Myrani on Mar 23, 2009 14:07:23 GMT
3. does dragon slaying turn your hair black? When hair's cut short it goes darker at the roots, as it's usually light that, um, lightens it. So my friend would be very blonde if her hair was longer, as would be her brother and mother, both of whom have very short hair. It sometimes turns darker as one grows older, too—I saw in pictures that my dad had white-blond hair when he was a toddler, and these days it's nearly black. I'll just go ahead and voice my excitement over this chapter as well. ;D |
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Post by kygron on Mar 23, 2009 16:23:58 GMT
Assuming she really is a robot. So far, that's just a guess by Annie. along these lines... Can someone point me to where it says that Anthony is in the picture at all? The only place I found it it was a guess by Kat, yet everyone else seems so sure that it's him. |
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Post by Neats on Mar 23, 2009 16:27:08 GMT
Assuming she really is a robot. So far, that's just a guess by Annie. along these lines... Can someone point me to where it says that Anthony is in the picture at all? The only place I found it it was a guess by Kat, yet everyone else seems so sure that it's him. Since she said it in front of her parents, and they didn't correct her guess, I'm assuming she was correct in the first place. |
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Post by nikita on Mar 23, 2009 17:25:07 GMT
The photographer is portrayed with unusual realism. I have a superstition that this means the character is based on a real person in the life of the cartoonist. If you reread the comic you will notice that the new characters tend to look better due to the art getting better, while the old characters evolve slowly because Tom can't just redesign them from scratch without having a certain discontinuity in their look. The later a character is introduced, the better it looks. |
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Post by sandjosieph on Mar 23, 2009 18:34:03 GMT
Perhaps the girl's name is Samantha?
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Post by Dentrala on Mar 23, 2009 18:56:48 GMT
I love flashback chapters!
I think Anthony just dyed his hair black so he'd look cooler. Maybe he went through a goth-punk stage before turning to... Dragon slaying? >.>
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Post by UbiquitousDragon on Mar 23, 2009 19:41:53 GMT
Wow, this really is going to be a complete flashback chapter! It's kinda weird seeing the people in the photo as characters and not just still portraits. And now where finally going to get a glimpse of what Anthony was like. Or what he is like at all. Chapter 18 began with flashbacks, then interspersed flashbacks: S1. |
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Post by omegax123 on Mar 23, 2009 19:56:46 GMT
So why is it that everyone seems to think black-haired-boy behind Surma is Carver and brown-haired-boy behind mystery-girl is Egs? It's strongly implied, iirc, if not outright stated, that Surma was dating Eglamore 'in those days', and ended up with Carver later, and that's the only reason I can see for anyone assuming that, as I don't think anyone said 'that guy behind (my/Annie's/your) mum is (your/Annie's/my dad/Anthony Carver)' or anything to that effect, and there's the obvious connection that Anja and Donald are together in the photo, so that's the only thing I can think of that would make anyone assume black-hair is Carver...
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Post by snes on Mar 23, 2009 20:09:36 GMT
So why is it that everyone seems to think black-haired-boy behind Surma is Carver and brown-haired-boy behind mystery-girl is Egs? It's strongly implied, iirc, if not outright stated, that Surma was dating Eglamore 'in those days', and ended up with Carver later, and that's the only reason I can see for anyone assuming that, as I don't think anyone said 'that guy behind (my/Annie's/your) mum is (your/Annie's/my dad/Anthony Carver)' or anything to that effect, and there's the obvious connection that Anja and Donald are together in the photo, so that's the only thing I can think of that would make anyone assume black-hair is Carver... No, everyone thinks that the boy behind Surma is James and the boy behind TGFTP is Anthony. It was confirmed in this page.Anybody notice the inconsistency in their uniforms? James and Anthony are wearing shirt and tie, no jacket, Donald is wearing shirt and tie with a sweater vest, Anja has a shrit and a jacket, Surma is wearing a shirt and a sweater vest, and TGFTP is wearing a sweater (much like the ones Annie and Kat were wearing their first year). |
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Post by penguinfactory on Mar 23, 2009 20:30:09 GMT
The photographer is portrayed with unusual realism. I have a superstition that this means the character is based on a real person in the life of the cartoonist. I was wondering about that myself. It could just be that he was designed more recently, when Tom's art skillz have increased, and so he looks more detailed. Also, he looks uncannily similar to PZ Myers Judging by how the whole deal with Surma went (most obvious guess by us and a character was way off) it's probably false. I've been wondering about this for awhile. Maybe they're sisters (or not). Assuming the makeup is significant in some way (which it almost certainly is- remember this?) and the theory of it shielding Annie from magic/ghosts /whatever is true (which is much less certain), maybe mystery girl was a medium as well. Perhaps she died in some kind of training accident- it would explain why none of the other characters have mentioned her (painful memories and/or guilt) and why the Court took so long to start training more. |
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Post by todd on Mar 23, 2009 22:22:30 GMT
Nobody seems to have commented on it yet, but the "We do!" line in the last panel is written in a different font - much rougher - than the rest of the page (than the rest of the script in the webcomic, in fact). I don't know whether it's deliberate (reflecting something about the speaker) or an error.
There'll probably be some present-day action in this chapter as well, if for no other reason than to explain how Annie can include it in her account of her time at Gunnerkrigg. (Though there've been some passages in the comic so far - such as the conversation between the Donlans and Eglamore after Annie and Kat leave in Chapter Seven, not to mention a lot of the Bonus Pages - that she couldn't have known about.)
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Post by popo on Mar 24, 2009 0:55:01 GMT
Grumpy dude, eh. Now, how did he get pulled into the photo? One of the girls? James and Don don't seem to be attending to him. it looks like Donald is at least looking back at him |
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