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Post by edzepp on Feb 27, 2009 8:04:55 GMT
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Post by eightyfour on Feb 27, 2009 8:09:19 GMT
Well, seeing as the direct approach would involve killing a sentient being (and even then she couldn't be sure it's actually Muut who comes), this is little surprising. :o)
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Post by edzepp on Feb 27, 2009 8:15:39 GMT
Pretty much.
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Post by ferrusdominus on Feb 27, 2009 8:19:07 GMT
Annie's on the slippery slope to murdering shadow people to get dates (or set up Kat) with Muut... Lookout shadow 2!
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Post by Count Casimir on Feb 27, 2009 10:14:34 GMT
First outright anger, now cold-blooded murder for personal gains.
Our little Annie is growing up! We'll make a Sith lord of her yet.
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Post by mjh on Feb 27, 2009 10:21:35 GMT
Any Native Americans around the Court might wish to watch their backs when Annie’s around.
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Post by picaro on Feb 27, 2009 10:59:56 GMT
I wonder if she can use the stone to find Anthony.
Yay question times!
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Post by todd on Feb 27, 2009 11:49:02 GMT
I do wish that Annie could have found a less violent way to get the attention of the Guides, but I suppose there is none (apart from just waiting around for something to die, which could take a while).
I would like to know what Annie wants to speak to Ketrak about. To find some way of conveying her apologies to Mort, or to find out why the Guides wanted her to have a blinker stone? At least we'll (probably) learn next Monday.
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Post by noako on Feb 27, 2009 13:07:32 GMT
Killing a little ant quickly without any torture is cold-blooded murder now? What did you guys do growing up? Kat's "click-clack" made me really curious how Ketrak looks.. or sounds.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 27, 2009 13:45:55 GMT
Tom said something about Ketrak's appearance. In retrospect, his comment had a bit of foreshadowing.
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Post by todd on Feb 27, 2009 13:52:23 GMT
Killing a little ant quickly without any torture is cold-blooded murder now? What did you guys do growing up? Kat's "click-clack" made me really curious how Ketrak looks.. or sounds. I've mentioned this before, but I suspect that Tom will continue to keep Ketrak hidden from us, on the grounds that no drawing of him could ever live up to the expectations that his cameo in Chapter Sixteen (or rather, Kat's response to that cameo) raised. Note that (apparently) Annie is looking down in the final panel when she's greeting him, suggesting that Ketrak may not be that much larger than the insects he comes for.
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Post by zingbat on Feb 27, 2009 14:13:22 GMT
You know, given the number of bugs that must die every second, I wonder if maybe there are a lot of identical beings called "Ketrak", all controlled by a hive mind.
Probably not (he probably just uses psychopomp magic to get around), but I thought it was a cool idea.
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Post by mjh on Feb 27, 2009 14:28:56 GMT
You know, given the number of bugs that must die every second, I wonder if maybe there are a lot of identical beings called "Ketrak", all controlled by a hive mind. Probably not (he probably just uses psychopomp magic to get around), but I thought it was a cool idea. He could resort to the same method that Santa Claus uses, whatever that might be … And btw, even if it is “just an ant”, killing some living being just for summoning a psychopomp feels, well, awkward. Not good for one’s karma, I presume.
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Post by Uglyhead on Feb 27, 2009 14:37:51 GMT
Haven't seen Muut in a while. Hopefully if Carver can get in touch with him he'll be willing to spill the beans (and perhaps deliver an apology to ole Mort). Maybe we can look forward to a flashback about the source of Antimony's anger toward the Guides.
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Post by snes on Feb 27, 2009 15:12:44 GMT
Yeah, I totally called this. Totally. Did you notice how Kat let her hair down? I guess she thought the story was getting to serious for pigtails.
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Post by Tanya on Feb 27, 2009 15:29:40 GMT
MY PREDICTION: Annie is going to go find a bug to smash, and then demand Ketrak bring Muut to talk with her. Personally, I'd love to see Muut again. His exaggerated gestures make him a very amusing character. you called it, Snes!
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Post by warrl on Feb 27, 2009 15:56:46 GMT
And btw, even if it is “just an ant”, killing some living being just for summoning a psychopomp feels, well, awkward. Not good for one’s karma, I presume. Killing a single wandering ant is only slightly more serious than trimming your fingernails. In many senses it isn't really a being at all. Ants themselves will willingly use living ants of their own colony as construction materials, and not just for temporary structures.
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Post by mudmaniac on Feb 27, 2009 16:40:34 GMT
Killing a single wandering ant is only slightly more serious than trimming your fingernails. In many senses it isn't really a being at all. Ants themselves will willingly use living ants of their own colony as construction materials, and not just for temporary structures. Thats the kind of thinking that will make you one of the first against the wall when the giant ant space aliens come to conquer our planet. From space.
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Post by Inugami on Feb 27, 2009 16:40:55 GMT
Ants are like robots that grow like grass.
Not court robots, you understand, but normal robots. (Or boxbots.)
Killing an ant is like cutting grass.
Frankly, it's amazing that insects even warrant a Psychopomp.
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Post by mjh on Feb 27, 2009 16:54:18 GMT
Ants themselves will willingly use living ants of their own colony as construction materials, and not just for temporary structures. As an argument in moral philosophy, it doesn’t hold much water. For one thing, ants killing ants doesn’t make it OK for us to kill ants. Suppose some aliens orbiting earth in their death-ray-equipped spaceship were observing things down here, and came to the conclusion that since humans were killing other humans all the time, it would probably be OK to kill some for their own purposes … Furthermore, for all we know, ants have no concept of morality, so they cannot tell (or show) us what is right and wrong in the ant universe. They just do what ants do. We, on the other hand, do have such concepts, and thus the ball stays in our court – we have to decide whether it’s right or wrong to kill an ant, rather than having the ants decide it for us. In any case, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ketrak got mad when summoned that way. The guy must be pretty busy as it is.
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Post by Neats on Feb 27, 2009 17:16:15 GMT
And btw, even if it is “just an ant”, killing some living being just for summoning a psychopomp feels, well, awkward. Not good for one’s karma, I presume. I don't suppose anyone would have blinked an eye if Kat had squished that ant just for happening to be nearby, which is obviously what she was thinking of doing. She probably would have, if she weren't squeamish about Ketrak now. Is that better than Annie doing the exact same thing, but for an actual purpose rather than "ew, it's an icky ant"?
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Post by snes on Feb 27, 2009 18:41:13 GMT
I don't suppose anyone would have blinked an eye if Kat had squished that ant just for happening to be nearby, which is obviously what she was thinking of doing. She probably would have, if she weren't squeamish about Ketrak now. Is that better than Annie doing the exact same thing, but for an actual purpose rather than "ew, it's an icky ant"? Good point. I see this discussion turning into half of us saying it's morally wrong for Annie to kill the ant and the other half saying it's perfectly alright for her to do it. I'm with the other half personally.
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Post by max on Feb 27, 2009 19:13:54 GMT
You know, given the number of bugs that must die every second, I wonder if maybe there are a lot of identical beings called "Ketrak", all controlled by a hive mind. Probably not (he probably just uses psychopomp magic to get around), but I thought it was a cool idea. He could resort to the same method that Santa Claus uses, whatever that might be … quantum mechanics told us that Santa Claus is actually "dispersed" over the face of the earth, the same way electrons are around the atom nucleus; hence there is no exact location of santa claus, only places of higher chance to encounter him So there's no magic about it xD pretty sneaky of annie to kill a bug to call kertrak to make him call muut btw.
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Post by wombat on Feb 27, 2009 21:10:52 GMT
And btw, even if it is “just an ant”, killing some living being just for summoning a psychopomp feels, well, awkward. Not good for one’s karma, I presume. I don't suppose anyone would have blinked an eye if Kat had squished that ant just for happening to be nearby, which is obviously what she was thinking of doing. She probably would have, if she weren't squeamish about Ketrak now. Is that better than Annie doing the exact same thing, but for an actual purpose rather than "ew, it's an icky ant"? Actually that ant didn't just happen to be nearby, it was in the test tube and brought out so it could be killed. Have you guys never killed a bug before? I certainly have.
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Post by sandjosieph on Feb 27, 2009 21:17:39 GMT
I actually managed to cut off an ant's head once. After a few seconds, the headless body began flopping about. I've never been able to kill another insect since...
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Feb 27, 2009 21:48:54 GMT
In the eyes of Ketrak, I must be a monster.
Personally I think that Ketrak should be never actually seen in the comic. Like someone mentioned earlier, our own personal image of Ketrak is something that can never be lived up to exactly, much like, say, Zimmy's science project or The Cursed Teapot incident. In my mind, Zimmy' science project is something so horrific and monstrous that it cannot, and should never, ever be committed to paper. And that's the fun of it, it's something else for every person.
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Post by sandjosieph on Feb 27, 2009 21:56:20 GMT
Yes, cause certain things were never meant for mortal eyes. We'd also probably ask for a new brain and a new set of eyes.
Speaking of which, does Annie have the power to grant others the ability to see what cannot be seen? I wonder who taught her how to do that.
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Post by djublonskopf on Feb 27, 2009 22:00:44 GMT
I think Tom said that Ketrak has the power to reveal himself or not.
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Post by sebastian on Feb 27, 2009 22:09:27 GMT
And btw, even if it is “just an ant”, killing some living being just for summoning a psychopomp feels, well, awkward. Not good for one’s karma, I presume. Well, she could have waited in the garden school's waiting for some insect to die, but it is possible that, with all the insect that die at any moment, she can't see Ketrak every time he is around or she would see him almost constantly (the last time maybe he was simply paying her a courtesy visit). This time when Ketrak see his next job is "mmh, a ant crushed... by Antimony Carver!? How weird. Maybe she want to talk with me. " Or something like it. Kudos, Snes. Your prediction was spot on. ;D
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Post by sebastian on Feb 27, 2009 22:13:42 GMT
Thats the kind of thinking that will make you one of the first against the wall when the giant ant space aliens come to conquer our planet. From space. "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords." ;D
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