ecomono
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Post by ecomono on Feb 9, 2009 8:02:49 GMT
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Post by edzepp on Feb 9, 2009 8:07:40 GMT
All together now: "Eep."
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tetsamaru
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Post by tetsamaru on Feb 9, 2009 8:22:21 GMT
Well at least he still has his body mentally. I'm hoping for a Wolf to girl talk. Character history go!!!!
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Post by Refugee on Feb 9, 2009 8:31:00 GMT
It's not recommended to pet wild animals, either, unless you are very sure of their temper -- and if there's anything you can be sure of with regards to Rey, it's that his temper is uncertain.
Still, I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict he will not attack her. Tease, yes. Remind her that bound as he is, he is still a force to be reckoned with, yes.
Try to do her serious harm, no.
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He has his foxy colors in this view of the world. Even Annie's hair is muted, but Rey's coat and eyes stand out.
I'm also intrigued by the fact that his body does not awaken.
[edit]Why, it's almost as if this is the world he's meant to be in....[/edit]
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And, dang it, I am caught by the affection I see in her gesture, ill-advised though it may be.
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Post by mudmaniac on Feb 9, 2009 8:37:14 GMT
The etheric plane must require incalculable quantities of shampoo and conditioner.
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Post by Refugee on Feb 9, 2009 8:48:49 GMT
If Annie looked at the Region Fairies in the Etheric Plane, would she understand why hair standing up was so important to them?
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Post by Dominic on Feb 9, 2009 9:00:57 GMT
Curious how well the restraints on him work in the etheric. Presumably fine, but we can't be sure. Don't think Rey would try anything nasty, though.
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ecomono
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Post by ecomono on Feb 9, 2009 9:54:24 GMT
Curious how well the restraints on him work in the etheric. Presumably fine, but we can't be sure. Don't think Rey would try anything nasty, though. Ownership is an etheric conceit... I'd expect the restraints to be stronger, if anything. |
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Post by warrl on Feb 9, 2009 10:36:41 GMT
Assuming the worst about Reynardine's intentions...
There are no *eyes* in line of sight - that's the requirement for him to steal a body - except for Annie's etheric eyes. So I would think he could not take possession of her body. He could take possession of her soul... but his taking possession drives out the soul, so really he only forces her soul to move over a bit.
In addition, she still owns his current body and hasn't given him permission to leave it.
I think he's still stuck.
But then, while I'd certainly recommend that Annie *be prepared* for the worst from him, I am not certain she should *assume* it.
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Post by wanderer on Feb 9, 2009 11:28:16 GMT
I don't trust this form of Reynardine. His spirit does not have the mark on its forhead. Thus, his etheric form is NOT bound to Annie's control. This could get tricky.
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Post by todd on Feb 9, 2009 11:42:57 GMT
I don't think that Annie's in danger of being taken over by Reynardine now, though my argument for that is metafictional: being possessed by him would automatically mean her death, which in turn would mean a premature end to the story.
Unless she spends the rest of the webcomic as a ghost, unable to move on until she's completed her delvings into Gunnerkrigg's true nature. Or unless Kat becomes the new narrator/protagonist.
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deram
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Post by deram on Feb 9, 2009 11:58:38 GMT
regardless of what happens, this will be interesting.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Feb 9, 2009 13:02:00 GMT
If Annie looked at the Region Fairies in the Etheric Plane, would she understand why hair standing up was so important to them? That's a very interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that at all. But as for today's comic, oh man. Oh jeez, I really don't know what to think. |
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Post by Fuin on Feb 9, 2009 13:03:15 GMT
Zal's comment made me think. Rey do look more wolf-like than fox-like (at least to me), apart from the colouring. Since your image in Ethera-Vision™ seem to depend on your mental image of yourself, it would seem that he is starting to identify himself more and more as a wolf. Will he have fully turned into a wolf by the end of the comic, proving that the mind is a plaything of the body?
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Post by jetaime on Feb 9, 2009 13:03:46 GMT
Reynardine brought her a coat when she was cold and she was avoiding talking to him. He's not about to attempt to kill her now. Annoying, bitter, devious, yes. Willing to kill her? Not unless it was the only way he could save her soul is my guess.
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Post by etcetera on Feb 9, 2009 13:05:23 GMT
I don't trust this form of Reynardine. His spirit does not have the mark on its forhead. Thus, his etheric form is NOT bound to Annie's control. This could get tricky. But the mercury symbol is also missing. I don't think Antimony is in danger, but at least in trouble. |
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Post by picaro on Feb 9, 2009 13:48:00 GMT
I assumed that the aetheric vision of the blinker stone was like... well not exactly an astral plane... but similar. I think this is a meeting of minds. Reynardine has taken his "true form" (although I like the theory about him becoming more wolfish) so does that imply that truth is very important here? Maybe it means he can't lie to Annie here. In which case this is an opportunity for Annie to ask some serious questions.
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Post by eightyfour on Feb 9, 2009 14:29:03 GMT
I think this is more of a "didn't see this one coming" moment, then Annie actually being in trouble, or danger even.
I find it very interesting that the blinker stone can also be used to communicate.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 9, 2009 14:30:17 GMT
Annie's contract of ownership over Rey means he can't lie to her anyway. Since this contract is tied to the fact that Annie owns Rey's current body, and the mind is a plaything of the body, I would assume the contract is in full effect and Annie's in no danger.
Perhaps this will lead to some sort of discussion about what Annie learned about Rey in the last chapter. Or maybe this will just further estrange the two.
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Post by menschenjaeger on Feb 9, 2009 14:48:32 GMT
Rey put himself in harm's way to protect Antimony when Ysengrin attacked, so I doubt he's going to suddenly go wrong on us. $10 on "Reynadine is having some fun with her."
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Post by karakai on Feb 9, 2009 14:51:06 GMT
I dunno, he looks too devious to be leaning toward a wolf. The wolf form is just a toy, yuh? (he said so himself in the robot chapter) Seems more like Tom just forgot to color the black tips on his ears haha.
I hope this breaks the ice that formed between them, tho.
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Post by snes on Feb 9, 2009 14:55:27 GMT
I love how all the panel boarders in this comic are nothing but hair. Tons and tons of hair.
I don't think Annie is in any danger, but if she is, we'll probably see Anja taking with Kat until she realizes Annie has popped out, at which point she'll rush back in and confront Reynardine. That's my prediction if she is in trouble. If she isn't they'll probably just talk.
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Post by King Mir on Feb 9, 2009 15:26:19 GMT
I suspect that though Rey cannot take Annie's body here that he would be able to kill her. I agree that he is unlikely to do this, however.
But the way Rey phrases himself seems to suggest that there is a danger to spying on anyone, not just him. What could be the danger of spying on a normal person?
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Post by picaro on Feb 9, 2009 15:50:08 GMT
Annie's contract of ownership over Rey means he can't lie to her anyway. Reynard is cunning, I'm sure he could be as economical with the truth as he wanted without it being considered a lie. Omissions of details etc. Of course he did show willing to tell Annie what he'd done so I could be talking out of orifices not normally associated with conversation. |
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Post by warrl on Feb 9, 2009 16:13:07 GMT
But the way Rey phrases himself seems to suggest that there is a danger to spying on anyone, not just him. What could be the danger of spying on a normal person? My guess: quite a lot of people are sensitive enough to notice they are being spied on, and a fair number - probably including all or nearly-all potential blinkerstone-users - might recognize the spyer. Rey's wrong though: patting on the head is not spying. |
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Post by theoldwolf on Feb 9, 2009 16:23:10 GMT
Rey is used to being devious. He would immediately think that he was being spied on, at least at first.
Going to sit here and gnaw on my fingernails until Wednesday!
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Post by penguinfactory on Feb 9, 2009 16:47:13 GMT
I don't think Annie is in danger here. Given what we know now, I find it hard to believe that Reynardine would harm Surma's daughter (this is assuming the first attempt to kill her was some kind of bluff).
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Post by Refugee on Feb 9, 2009 16:51:34 GMT
This is one of those times when I'm more than half convinced I'm missing something: What's the deal with folks talking about Rey turning "wolf"? Rey's a fox; his body shape and fur confirm it. Someone here on the forum recently linked to the Encyclopedia Britannica article on Reynard the Fox as a trickster figure: Are folks claiming that Rey is losing his craft and becoming "greedy and dull witted"? === I'm not much interested in the legalistic contractual details between Rey and Annie. What interests me is what he will do when he is unconstrained. I think those noting that his Etheric form lacks the GK symbol on his forehead are right in suggesting that this means he is less constrained now than otherwise. Also, I want him to protect Annie because he respects her and is fond of her in her own right, not simply because she is Surma's daughter. The power that Annie has over his toy body prevented him from successfully attacking her before he understood who and what she was. Knowing she was Surma's daughter opened the door to his respect. But none of that should matter in the long run. |
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Post by ding on Feb 9, 2009 17:38:06 GMT
I wouldn't consider Reynard dull-witted at all, but he certainly has a loooooooooooong history of exhibiting expert self-preservation (what a antiseptic way to say "cunning"). We've seen a lot of references to how the body constrains the mind, I wouldn't be surprised if unconstrained Reynard does something true to his nature. But hey, can you blame the guy? I mean, he's a fox, after all.
But then again, I'm wondering what unconstrained Annie will do? She's been locked up in that head-case of hers up until now. She may yet prove to be Reynard's match.
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Post by warrl on Feb 9, 2009 18:29:35 GMT
This is one of those times when I'm more than half convinced I'm missing something: What's the deal with folks talking about Rey turning "wolf"? Rey's a fox; his body shape and fur confirm it. Rey's current body was made (by Surma) as a toy wolf. Since taking possession of it he has been in several variants of wolf shape (toy wolf, real wolf, werewolf...), but not a fox shape. Ysengrim also commented on Rey being in wolf form. (Negatively - you'd think he'd be flattered.) And Rey is the one who asserts that the mind is the plaything of the body. So by his own statement, as he spends time in wolf form he should be becoming more wolf-like. Whatever "wolf-like" might mean. |
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