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Post by edzepp on Jan 23, 2009 8:02:52 GMT
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Post by Trism on Jan 23, 2009 8:03:32 GMT
gosh golly, Rey's onto something!
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Post by fjodor on Jan 23, 2009 8:12:44 GMT
When Anja put the spell on Reynardine (page [107]) the 'blindfold' had that same symbol. Maybe she is part of an order that protects the Court? "Guardians of the Evil Eye" or something cool like that.
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Post by Trism on Jan 23, 2009 8:23:06 GMT
The symbol just makes me think "No eyes" or "Anti Eyes"
Reynardine can posses things with eyes.
All seems to match...
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Post by spritznar on Jan 23, 2009 8:29:56 GMT
i just noticed that when annies's in the freaky twilight zone mage sight space she has that cut on her cheek...
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Post by preus on Jan 23, 2009 8:31:11 GMT
Anja's necklace was previously seen here. |
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Post by vryko on Jan 23, 2009 8:46:20 GMT
There's a lot of symbolism of eyes in this comic. Reynardine can possess anything with eyes, that eye necklace, ZImmy's eyes are covered with dust except when it rains, Gamma called the tic-tock bird "the thousand eyes." That eye symbol was all over the large animal holding pens, I thought it was just about Reynardine, but since Mrs. Donlan was fingering it when Kat was going to check out the new lab, it must mean something else, something broader.
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Post by Rasselas on Jan 23, 2009 9:02:25 GMT
Maybe it's a ward against being possessed by Reynardine.
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Post by Trism on Jan 23, 2009 9:21:13 GMT
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Post by tetsamaru on Jan 23, 2009 9:25:42 GMT
The walls have eyes!!
well, its nice to know that "losing" the stone isnt that big of deal.
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Post by Rasselas on Jan 23, 2009 10:49:09 GMT
The connection to robots makes me question my "possession ward" theory, even though it seems sensible enough. Maybe it's memories. Perhaps Reynardine *has* possessed a robot before?
However, if that's a possession ward, wouldn't they have given those to Kat and Annie, when they're going to be spending a lot of time in Rey's proximity?
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Post by Dominic on Jan 23, 2009 11:06:12 GMT
However, if that's a possession ward, wouldn't they have given those to Kat and Annie, when they're going to be spending a lot of time in Rey's proximity? If Rey was any kind of danger to the kids he'd have been locked up and possibly destroyed ever since Annie showed his current form to the Donlans. Dammit, Tom. That symbol first popped up in chapter 3. I'm getting mighty impatient here. You sure know how to keep an audience >.< What I'm curious about - and slap me if it's been mentioned before - is whether there's any actual possession to a blinker stone. If Anja can retrieve the stone we consider Annie's, acn everybody who knows the trick? |
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Post by Rasselas on Jan 23, 2009 11:57:52 GMT
Still, we've seen how protective Eglamore can be, to the point of embarrassed fumbling. I'd say a necklace like that would be in the range of clip-on tie replacement at least. Of course, you have a point as well.
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Post by Trism on Jan 23, 2009 12:01:34 GMT
The connection to robots makes me question my "possession ward" theory, even though it seems sensible enough. Maybe it's memories. Perhaps Reynardine *has* possessed a robot before? However, if that's a possession ward, wouldn't they have given those to Kat and Annie, when they're going to be spending a lot of time in Rey's proximity? They weren't previously aware that rey could take inanimate objects with eyes. |
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Post by todd on Jan 23, 2009 12:48:23 GMT
There's a lot of symbolism of eyes in this comic. Reynardine can possess anything with eyes, that eye necklace, ZImmy's eyes are covered with dust except when it rains, Gamma called the tic-tock bird "the thousand eyes." That eye symbol was all over the large animal holding pens, I thought it was just about Reynardine, but since Mrs. Donlan was fingering it when Kat was going to check out the new lab, it must mean something else, something broader. And also, Annie is constantly watching everything around the Court closely (as on this page), examining it and looking for its meaning. The lead has perhaps the most intent eyes of all. |
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Post by wanderer on Jan 23, 2009 12:52:51 GMT
But do the eyes have walls?  When I first saw that symbol around Rey's cage, I thought it was merely some sort of warning about entering Rey's presence with unprotected eyes. But I wonder now if it may be more. |
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Post by nikita on Jan 23, 2009 13:16:52 GMT
I once used that symbol in a program I had to write for university as a button to hide/show the selected object.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jan 23, 2009 13:18:19 GMT
Seeing as Rey spent about five years in a cell with that eye symbol painted on the walls, I think it's a fair bet that he recognizes Anja's pennant. I wonder if Annie recognizes it.
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Post by Chrome on Jan 23, 2009 13:22:39 GMT
Could just mean secrecy, or "keeper of secret things" in the Court. I imagine this symbol as an eye part being crossed off, as in "do not see" or "unseen things."
It's probably like a security clearance tag, just a lot classier than some dorky photo of yourself on a sheet of plastic with "CLEARANCE" on it. Might even be electronic, allowing her entrance to wherever she goes that requires that clearance.
Here's a few things to support this: Reyn wasn't exactly findable when locked up in Sivo's body, and the symbol on the wall could spook off the unwary with "Eep, I'm not supposed to be here!" It's a secret cage, certainly not findable anyone except those with clearance, or a certain determined girl.
I don't think the robot basement as Anja found it is public knowledge in the Court either...(although Robot seems to be trying to make it that)...so if it's one of those Secret Things she must keep, it would explain why she fingers the necklace when the girls take off.
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Post by penguinfactory on Jan 23, 2009 13:30:51 GMT
I love all the continuity nods this chapter.
What's the significance of the eye smybol? It seems a bit unlikely that it's just related to Reynardine, and the last time we saw it had nothing to do with him.
I like the comparison shot between Annie and her mental self (or whatever). It's like "Dark Annie" or something.
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Post by todd on Jan 23, 2009 13:48:59 GMT
Seeing as Rey spent about five years in a cell with that eye symbol painted on the walls, I think it's a fair bet that he recognizes Anja's pennant. I wonder if Annie recognizes it. Knowing her, she almost certainly does. |
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Post by quats on Jan 23, 2009 13:58:41 GMT
What I'm curious about - and slap me if it's been mentioned before - is whether there's any actual possession to a blinker stone. If Anja can retrieve the stone we consider Annie's, acn everybody who knows the trick? I don't recall any evidence of Anja's retrieving Annie's stone; she always has asked Annie if she has it, rather than catching it herself. This could simply be politeness, but I always got the feeling of a direct connection. The stone she retrieves for herself for demonstration is her own: she notes that she left it at home in her jewelry box, so that she can demonstrate the retrieval feature. |
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Post by zingbat on Jan 23, 2009 14:24:54 GMT
Why are Annie and Reynardine suddenly focused on the necklace (if that is, indeed, how the 5th & 6th panels are supposed to be interpreted)? That is to say, since they've both seen it before, what about this particular occurrence has suddenly grabbed the attention of them both?
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Post by rjohnson on Jan 23, 2009 14:36:03 GMT
I don't think that they have seen it before. The last (and first)time the necklace was shown was after Annie and Kat had left Anja's presence.
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Post by zingbat on Jan 23, 2009 15:05:57 GMT
oh my god, you're right.
Huh! For some reason I felt like we'd seen it multiple times in the comic already... weird.
Well. Don't I feel silly now.
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Post by theoldwolf on Jan 23, 2009 15:06:20 GMT
Anja fingers her necklace and says, "We could ask..."
Ask whom? The eye seems to be the symbol of entities of a higher order...
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Post by King Mir on Jan 23, 2009 15:24:14 GMT
When I first saw that symbol around Rey's cage, I thought it was merely some sort of warning about entering Rey's presence with unprotected eyes. But I wonder now if it may be more. The symbol was inside the cage. You don't put warnings inside like that, you put them outside; if your inside you already know of the danger. To me they looked more like a ward. Perhaps they prevented Reynardine from jumping through walls. This also supports the theory that Anya's necklace is also a ward, though apparently its not just for Reynardine. Also, just noticed: Annie has no makeup in, erm, her mind's eye. This didn't happen with Zimmy. |
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Post by King Mir on Jan 23, 2009 15:39:16 GMT
Huh! For some reason I felt like we'd seen it multiple times in the comic already... weird. I felt the same. After I read the comic I tried to find the first time it was seen, but didn't find it before page 401. |
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Post by rjohnson on Jan 23, 2009 16:00:08 GMT
I think she is wearing makeup, its just harder to see. If you take a close look at the mind's eye drawings, you'll see different colors where the makeup would be normally.
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Post by holodrum on Jan 23, 2009 16:33:16 GMT
I don't see why she would be wearing makeup in her "mental state". It seems to me that your appearance in your mind would be dictated by how you see your self sans any superficial changes, such as make-up, that aren't all that important to who you truly are. Much like in the Matrix, if y'all don't mind such an overly done example. Now if this is true it makes me wonder even more about the cut on her cheek that someone else mentioned. Is it now part of how Annie sees herself, is she keeping it as a reminder of the girl by the river, or is it still there because it was a "supernatural" being that cut her therefore giving some magical reason for how it cut her deeper into her being than most other wounds of the flesh?
This raises another question that is if, hypothetically, a person in Annie's position, and with her curiosity, were to make contact and be "cut" by many such supernatural wounds, would their mental image of themselves be scarred and eventually disfigured, or could they take different mental trips of healing to heal those past wounds and continue to be whole?
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