yinglung
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Post by yinglung on Apr 21, 2008 5:02:32 GMT
It issound words from Jones.
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Post by edzepp on Apr 21, 2008 5:07:30 GMT
I like that she respects Annie's decision-making abilities. That's a sign of a good teacher.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 21, 2008 5:12:38 GMT
A nice character moment.
I like that Jones' face is hidden in the last panel. Part of me wonders if its significant or symbolic, and part of me thinks her face wouldn't tell us anything even if we could see it.
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yinglung
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Post by yinglung on Apr 21, 2008 5:26:13 GMT
is it just me, or is this the first time we've seen annie stutter?
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Post by King Mir on Apr 21, 2008 5:48:05 GMT
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yinglung
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Post by yinglung on Apr 21, 2008 6:04:18 GMT
I meant stutter as in the repetition of a syllable, such as "b-b-b-break "
as for annie seeming not to "um", it's because we are used to her being as unflappable as jones.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 21, 2008 6:07:00 GMT
Maybe in this case, she's just correcting herself. Further note about Annie's unflappability: She's only blushed once the entire comic -- when she was both embarrassed and winded from running. In all other possibly embarrassing situations, she either puts the offending party in their place, or shuts up, without blushing.
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Post by reeds on Apr 21, 2008 6:16:19 GMT
I can't wait till we see more of the Forest!
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Post by eightyfour on Apr 21, 2008 7:15:04 GMT
Again we see how Jones is treating Annie very straight forward and with a kind of respect you rarely see from an adult towards a child, even more so from a teacher.
God, I whish more people would be like that!
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Post by todd on Apr 21, 2008 10:45:29 GMT
Annie does seem to use more "ums" and "ers" lately than she did in the early days of the comic; maybe it's another sign (along with her displaying more emotion) that she's losing her old unflappability.
Jones still approves of Annie going into the forest to meet Coyote - even though Annie's past involvement with Gillitie Wood has generally helped get herself and the school in trouble (culminating in the events of Chapter Fourteen). Unless she's got darker motives here, she must have good reason to think that Annie's visit won't wind up bringing about a full-scale war between Gunnerkrigg and Gillitie.
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Post by cenit on Apr 21, 2008 13:52:08 GMT
Well, is it lately or just around Jones? Because Jones is que Queen of the Stone Face, no way that Annie is going to keep her cool more than Jones...at least not for now.
Other than that, loved the page...and let's see what happens next, my guess is that we'll be going back to Kat shortly, and end this chapter...but I've been wrong like 4 out of 5 regarding this comic.
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Post by nikita on Apr 21, 2008 15:11:47 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 21, 2008 22:21:39 GMT
Jones still approves of Annie going into the forest to meet Coyote - even though Annie's past involvement with Gillitie Wood has generally helped get herself and the school in trouble (culminating in the events of Chapter Fourteen). Unless she's got darker motives here, she must have good reason to think that Annie's visit won't wind up bringing about a full-scale war between Gunnerkrigg and Gillitie. Reconnaissance. The Court hasn't had any contact with the Woods for at least twelve years, and the only other people who've been returned from the woods either mysteriously disappeared (Robot S13) or possess no useful information because they lived separate from the rest of the forest (the Suicide Fairies). The Court will definitely want some inside info on the Forest. Except Jones isn't clearly aligned with the Court, so her interests and the Court's interests may not be the same. Hmm... Maybe it would just be very poor manners to decline Coyote's offer. And Jones isn't cool with that. Either way, it's clear that an invitation into Gillitie is Serious Business, and Coyote is clearly capable of reasonable discourse when Reynardine isn't around. And considering that he knocked his own General unconscious for getting violent, Coyote doesn't seem to be interested in provoking war. I think Jones is on pretty solid ground assuming that Annie's visit won't hurt relations between the Court and the Wood. I'm more worried about how the visit will affect Annie.
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Post by hajo on Apr 22, 2008 1:34:57 GMT
let's see what happens next, my guess is that we'll be going back to Kat shortly Currently on the todo-list: * Annie wanted to visit Mort again with Kat * Mrs. Donlan wanted to show Annie how to use the blinker-stone + This would also be an excellent time to ask for a copy of [url=http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=293 ]that[/url] photo * Meet the headmaster
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Post by eightyfour on Apr 22, 2008 8:12:46 GMT
Coyote is clearly capable of reasonable discourse when Reynardine isn't around. And considering that he knocked his own General unconscious for getting violent, Coyote doesn't seem to be interested in provoking war. I think Jones is on pretty solid ground assuming that Annie's visit won't hurt relations between the Court and the Wood. I agree. Ysengrim seems to be the main Warmonger here. As much as he wants, he can't just start a war without going through his superior, though, which would be Coyote. The fake evidence he made up was meant to convince Coyote and bring him on his side. If Coyote wanted a war, what would stop him from just starting one? Why would he need a reason? He's deity, it's not like he can be held accountable for anything he does! Now I'm sure Coyote has his own agenda, but I don't think "war" is on it, at least not anywhere near the top. Remember, he's the "Trickster". War is not a trickster's game.
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Post by todd on Apr 22, 2008 10:36:33 GMT
I think it's safe to say that Annie won't be going into Gillitie Wood for a while yet, since Tom's mentioned that the next chapter will be focused on Kat. Unless Annie ventures into the forest on the last page of this chapter, and the next chapter will be what Kat's doing while Annie's in Gillitie (though I doubt it).
Maybe Annie's visit won't worsen relations with the forest, but I think that most of the school faculty would fear it would (especially in light of what they already know about Annie's track record - first freeing Reynardine, and then the incident at the bridge - and they don't even know about Annie sending Robot into the forest). Jones will probably be engaging in subterfuge to keep the rest of the teachers from finding out about Annie's visit.
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Post by gdwarf on Apr 22, 2008 14:44:36 GMT
War is not a trickster's game. I agree with everything but this. War is definitely a trickster's game, tactics decide more than numbers or power does (although all three are, of course, necessary.) I suspect that if there was a war between the Forest and Gunnerkrigg that the Forest would use guerrilla tactics; lots of hiding, sabotage, sudden strikes, fast retreats, etc. simply because Coyote would presumably be involved with planning it. Of course, Ysengrim is the general, and he strikes me as the type to just march all of the Forest's troops directly across the bridge in a suicide attack on a heavily-fortified position. (Though the lying to start a war shows that he can try to be devious, perhaps he would do a good job, despite his apparently insanity.)
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Post by cenit on Apr 22, 2008 15:40:18 GMT
let's see what happens next, my guess is that we'll be going back to Kat shortly Currently on the todo-list: * Annie wanted to visit Mort again with Kat * Mrs. Donlan wanted to show Annie how to use the blinker-stone + This would also be an excellent time to ask for a copy of [url=http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=293 ]that [/url] photo * Meet the headmaster [/quote] What do you mean by asking a copy of the photo? didn't annie steal it? Also, looking forward to see what the blinker stone can do
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Post by fuzzysocks on Apr 22, 2008 17:13:32 GMT
Annie does seem to use more "ums" and "ers" lately than she did in the early days of the comic; maybe it's another sign (along with her displaying more emotion) that she's losing her old unflappability. Either that, or Jones is just really intimidating XD
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Post by todd on Apr 22, 2008 22:30:13 GMT
Then again, many of the things that have happened to Annie since she arrived at Gunnerkrigg could have done much to wear away her old stoic disposition:
1. She's made a friend her own age (Kat) for the first time in her life; Kat's probably done a lot to teach Annie how to be like a kid.
2. Partly thanks to Kat, she's finally been able to cry about her mother's death and display more emotion.
3. The first etheric beings whom Annie met were the Guides, who were friendly. So also were Shadow2 and Basil. But after her first couple of weeks at Gunnerkrigg, Annie met many less friendly etheric beings: some treacherous (such as Reynardine), others straightforwardly unfriendly (such as the Ghost Girl with a Sword and Ysengrin), and even found her life threatened by them. Maybe her original apparent fearlessness towards etheric beings was because she assumed that they'd all be like Muut, Moddey, and Mallt, and she didn't realize that there were etheric beings who'd want to possess or kill her. Now she knows, and that might have made her more cautious.
Of course, much of this is still just speculation.
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Post by eightyfour on Apr 23, 2008 7:10:03 GMT
War is not a trickster's game. I agree with everything but this. War is definitely a trickster's game, tactics decide more than numbers or power does (although all three are, of course, necessary.) Let me rephrase. There is trickery in war, sure, but a trickster is not a warrior. The true trickster schemes in the dark, war is too blund and, well, obvious. I don't remember the exact quote, but I think some clever person once said something along the line of "War is what happens when the trickery has failed." Only they used the word "politics" instead of "trickery".
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Post by hajo on Apr 23, 2008 9:20:19 GMT
Currently on the todo-list: + This would also be an excellent time to ask for a copy of [url=http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=293 ]that [/url] photo [/quote]What do you mean by asking a copy of the photo? didn't annie steal it?[/quote] Having an 'officially given' picture would be nice, and they sure can make more copies of it ?
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