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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 13, 2013 8:00:30 GMT
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Post by Varns on Feb 13, 2013 8:02:52 GMT
A congratulations to everyone who predicted Parley would be next in line for protector.
I still feel awful for Annie though.
On a smaller side note, have we seen that symbol in panel three before. I could have sworn that its somewhere else in the comic.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Feb 13, 2013 8:03:23 GMT
Aww, a comforting Rey.
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Post by Max on Feb 13, 2013 8:04:59 GMT
This is actually a lot more reasonable then "you will be the next protector."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 8:06:12 GMT
This chapter just gets stranger by the page. There's gotta be some bigger ulterior motives at play. If I were to hazard a guess, the Headmaster (and anyone else who apparently made these choices, if there was anyone else) is thinking like Nnelg and trying to outmaneuver Coyote's shenanigans. Parley and Andrew are nearly unstoppable with their powers combined (could Coyote stop time fast enough to catch a teleport?) and thus are perfect for reinforcing the divide - especially if Annie frees Jeanne.
Hell, this could be part of a larger scheme to turn Parley into a pseudo-neo-Jeanne.
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Post by Max on Feb 13, 2013 8:07:16 GMT
azujax: "Nnelg"?
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 13, 2013 8:07:36 GMT
The more I think about it, the more I like this turn of events. Being a medium is all well and good, but being a free agent comes with its own perks. Antimony needs some distance between herself and the manipulators.
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Post by scottdog on Feb 13, 2013 8:10:47 GMT
I'm expecting some sort of twist, where Annie gets a position that is better than being Medium.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 8:13:04 GMT
On a smaller side note, have we seen that symbol in panel three before. I could have sworn that its somewhere else in the comic. I believe that's the symbol for the protector of The Court. Pretty sure we've seen it at least twice, but I mostly remember it from Chapter 22The intense theorist who posts 'round these parts. Started this thread. |
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Post by mudmaniac on Feb 13, 2013 8:13:56 GMT
This current chain of events has been totally unexpected!
Would this mean the end of trips into the forest for Annie?
I would not put it past the court to hurt her so. We see how Gunnerkrigg continues massive ether experiments despite know the terrible side effect they have on little girls like Zimmy.
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Post by guyy on Feb 13, 2013 8:15:01 GMT
You know...I don't get it. Is there a reason why Mr. Slouchypants has ultimate authority over these sorts of things? There isn't, you know, a committee or something? There could be, theoretically, but it appears that no one but him knew this would happen, and I think it's unlikely that he could have kept it quiet if anyone else knew.
Jones didn't know, and if anyone besides throne-boy could be expected to know something about...well, anything, it'd be her. Even Coyote seemed surprised, and he's a freakin' trickster god. Did he tell anyone he was going to do this? Is anyone actually going to contest the decision? If not, well... someone should at least give him a crown to complete the ensemble.
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Post by Max on Feb 13, 2013 8:15:25 GMT
The intense theorist who posts 'round these parts. Started this thread. Ahh. Haven't been paying as much attention to these forums as I used to. ---- I wonder how things are going with Kat and Robot. |
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Post by penguinfactory on Feb 13, 2013 8:15:42 GMT
My take on all this is a bit complicated.
I can actually see why Parley would make a better Eglamore replacement than Annie. She's older and much better at fighting, a skill that Annie hasn't shown any real aptitude in to the Court staff. And while I can't really see why they'd want Smitface as the medium, I can think of plenty of reasons they wouldn't want Annie to have the job- flagrant violation of rules, power that essentially puts her above any kind of authority, is clearly biased toward the forest etc.
All that said, even if these decisions make sense the way it's being carried out is clearly meant to punish Annie for all the shenanigans she's gotten into in the past- they can't make her go to detention so the're making her watch as her dreams are crushed in front of all of her peers and adult role models.
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Post by quoodle on Feb 13, 2013 8:18:47 GMT
Parley and Andrew are nearly unstoppable with their powers combined ... thus are perfect for reinforcing the divide - especially if Annie frees Jeanne. Hell, this could be part of a larger scheme to turn Parley into a pseudo-neo-Jeanne. Think of what you've suggested - what, are they going to kill Smitty and crush their love to do it? They did it before. That's just too evil. As for this whole turn of events - it says nothing positive about the court. Even the adults we've seen (except the headmaster) have been truly outsiders. The court was past a certain point grew on a foundation of evil - has anything changed? |
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Post by foresterr on Feb 13, 2013 8:21:47 GMT
I wonder if it is all. And if I were in Annie's shoes, would I feel even worse if it is? Sometimes it's better to get punished than to be ignored.
I wonder if such a scenario is possible: Friday, Annie gets expelled from the Court, Monday, Annie gets transferred to Jones care somehow (making her pretty much a real free operator). Maybe the Court would consider this tying Jones down, and useful for some reason?
Oh, and as for the symbol, in addition to representing Protector of the Court, AKA Dragon Slayer, it is also an alchemical symbol for lead.
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Post by mudmaniac on Feb 13, 2013 8:23:29 GMT
The more I think about it, the more I like this turn of events. Being a medium is all well and good, but being a free agent comes with its own perks. Antimony needs some distance between herself and the manipulators. I totally agree with this. being court medium would mean being bound to so many of the court's rules and regulations. Right now she gets to be small and at large. A question comes to mind, how would Smitty's powers of creating order from chaos, interact with Coyote, who appears to be chaos personified? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 8:35:13 GMT
 Oh, those rascals. |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 13, 2013 8:39:08 GMT
A question comes to mind, how would Smitty's powers of creating order from chaos, interact with Coyote, who appears to be chaos personified? Perhaps, Coyote would act more orderly than Andrew. Like Gargoyle's Puck did with Vogel, he could try to out Smitty Smitty. It be hilarious to see which would give out first: Coyote's patience or Andrew's nerves. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 13, 2013 8:43:39 GMT
There's also the question about the role of both of Annie's parents in the Court. Very clearly Anthony Carver has had, and possibly still has, a significant role that has made him known on the forest side as well. His role may have something to do with Court's plans on Annie. Personally, I had thought that the plans were tied to her position as the medium, and it still seems, to my mind, that they were. However, I suspect that whether making Annie the medium was essential to Court's plans on her or not, there are still some political coup that they aim to play by her and that has something to do with her father, I do not for a second believe that they would have simply put her aside for good. A punishment for her, yes, but more of a waste of resources and investment for the Court.
Edit: and let's still add the likely possibility that Anthony Carver has plans of his own, that concern his daughter. He probably cooperates with the Court, but I would not be surprised if his own plans contradicted those of the Court in the end. Well, a little should come as a surprise from Carver père by now.
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Post by eightyfour on Feb 13, 2013 8:45:15 GMT
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Post by philman on Feb 13, 2013 8:45:44 GMT
Hmm, how abut them giving annie some pointless, menial position as a punishment, which she is then going to find a way of turning into something incredibly useful/powerful. Whether that was their plan all along or not.
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Post by Ashley Y on Feb 13, 2013 8:55:15 GMT
Protector of the Court and the alchemical symbol for lead (the metal).
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Post by Toloc on Feb 13, 2013 9:32:01 GMT
Perhaps, Coyote would act more orderly than Andrew. Like Gargoyle's Puck did with Vogel, he could try to out Smitty Smitty. It be hilarious to see which would give out first: Coyote's patience or Andrew's nerves. Oh, those rascals. New theory: Coyote is the headmaster and just trolling everyone on a massive scale. On a less insane note: The headmaster still looks bored, though Jones thought in "a medium beginning" that that was because he was tired of dealing with those silly forest animals. Shouldn't he be at least a little more interested in this one? |
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Post by Lightice on Feb 13, 2013 9:52:20 GMT
Well, unlike the other choice, this didn't come off as a surprise, at all. However, the Headmaster is still doing this all the wrong way, and turning an important ceremony into a charade. You don't just jump on people at a gathering like this to get them to agree to something they might have otherwise refused. That is not the best way to endear yourself or the Court to people you have to work with from now on and who can cause you all sorts of trouble in the future if this deal reflects how you act on everyday basis. Hell, Smitty might just plain stand down once he's had time to reflect on the matters, if he still thinks that he's less suitable for the job than Annie or that the Headmaster's methods were unacceptable. Though it would be a different matter if Annie was even willing for the job, any more, at that point.
I'm starting to get the impression that the Headmaster doesn't consider the Medium's job all that important, and just wants to snub Coyote by taking away his favourite toy as a power-play of some sort. I have to wonder how Coyote will take the challenge -- will he answer it in kind or dismiss it like it's completely beneath him?
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Post by hajo on Feb 13, 2013 10:39:39 GMT
This is actually a lot more reasonable then "you will be the next protector." I can't help but notice that Parley is the only one here who sort-of gets asked if she wants the position... Maybe 'Protector' is the only important job spoken about at this meeting ;D |
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Post by cu on Feb 13, 2013 11:02:07 GMT
Whoa, wait... did Eggers just call Carver "Annie"? Now *that* is surprising.
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Post by cu on Feb 13, 2013 11:10:30 GMT
And he said "they'd pick..." So there is a "they", therefore the Court is indeed a collective body.
Nitpickynitpickynit...
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Post by seppaseppa on Feb 13, 2013 11:16:08 GMT
Oh Annie, you kind of brought this on yourself... But still, this page breaks my heart.  |
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Post by 0o0f on Feb 13, 2013 11:36:30 GMT
Yeah, I can see why someone would prefer Smithy as a medium, but "everyone" was expecting Annie to be the medium... makes me wonder.
I doubt Annie will be expelled though.
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 13, 2013 11:37:34 GMT
Would be cool if Annie recovered enough to ask Coyote not to drive those two newbies completely crazy, then say, "well, now here's your need-to-know" and give them a long page worth of small glowing letters. Including a few things of which even the Headmaster is still blissfully ignorant (short of Jeanne, but by now the team should have discussed that anyway). As a bonus, noticeable speech impairment caused by the latter could also put Coyote into good mood. This chapter just gets stranger by the page. There's gotta be some bigger ulterior motives at play. If I were to hazard a guess, the Headmaster (and anyone else who apparently made these choices, if there was anyone else) is thinking like Nnelg and trying to outmaneuver Coyote's shenanigans. Parley and Andrew are nearly unstoppable with their powers combined (could Coyote stop time fast enough to catch a teleport?) and thus are perfect for reinforcing the divide Either that, or the dude just thought - hey, this Antimony kid slapped Coyote? Let's make her our new Medium! She changed the attitude? Let's try with those two kids! Okay, not really, but this may as well be one of secondary factors. The more I think about it, the more I like this turn of events. Being a medium is all well and good, but being a free agent comes with its own perks. Antimony needs some distance between herself and the manipulators. ...and these two need a real practice. Also, it occurs to me that Antimony doesn't put much attention into her investigations any more. So good non-news is that she have that thin, mean vindictive streak.  Oh, and as for the symbol, in addition to representing Protector of the Court, AKA Dragon Slayer, it is also an alchemical symbol for lead. (ominously): as in, " the wolf ate lead". ;D |
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