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Post by fjodor on Jul 6, 2007 8:08:08 GMT
They're not too eager to visit the Forest people, are they?
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Post by todd on Jul 6, 2007 10:42:49 GMT
I'd speculated that the signal from the forest was for the purposes of setting up a parley, and now it seems that I'm correct.
It also seems that the reason is Annie's recent visit to Gillitie Wood (and maybe her sending Robot into Gillitie Wood with Shadow2, as well), as I'd also speculated. Which means that our heroine could be in serious trouble....
I've mentioned this before, but one thing that strikes me about the events leading up to this moment is that Annie's original action that triggered this trouble was ultimately a futile one. She sent Robot across the bridge so that he could return Shadow2 to his family in the forest. But then Shadow2 ultimately decided to come back and live with Annie in the school, meaning that sending Robot into Gillitie Wood turned out to be pointless.
Whatever the case, I wonder if Annie's going to be put on trial very soon over her "offences"....
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Post by fjodor on Jul 6, 2007 10:52:57 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 6, 2007 11:42:33 GMT
Annie's normally so confident and composed. It feels strange to see her looking nervous.
I hope Annie finally tells Eglamore what she's done. She's never been very forthcoming with him, and Eglamore and the Donlans can't help her if she won't tell him what's going on. And she needs the help; she's involving herself with forces she doesn't understand.
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Post by yeochild on Jul 6, 2007 12:42:03 GMT
Ahh. So the forest people probably aren't that angry. Just irked enough to come over and demand some small token of apology in return . . . some magic artefact maybe? Unless, oh no, they're really angry and wanna send two of their most powerful d00ds in to hit a blow against the Court before they openly declare war.
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Post by todd on Jul 6, 2007 17:24:57 GMT
Something tells me that, after Annie explains to Mrs. Donlan and Mr. Eglamore about the events in Chapter One, they're likely to give her a piece of scolding over not having come to them about the Shadow2 problem instead of taking matters into her own hands and building Robot.
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Post by La Poire on Jul 6, 2007 22:38:39 GMT
From page three – www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=3 – it seems Annie really did try to tell the faculty about Shadow2, so at least she has an excuse. This was before she knew any of the teachers personally, remember. She did try to find a solution to her problem without breaking the school rules. |
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Post by todd on Jul 7, 2007 0:15:16 GMT
That's true, and something that I also thought of.
And the school rules didn't forbid robots from entering Gillitie Wood, so far as Annie knew. (Maybe the rules for the robot community behind the "boring door" did, but that's another story.)
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Post by Count Casimir on Jul 7, 2007 0:56:55 GMT
Wuh oh.
Also, remember that Eglamore thought Rey had tricked Annie into going to the bridge? I'd guess that he thinks Rey and his cousin are allied, while Rey really doesn't think much of his "fool cousin".
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 7, 2007 2:38:25 GMT
From page three – www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=3 – it seems Annie really did try to tell the faculty about Shadow2, so at least she has an excuse. This was before she knew any of the teachers personally, remember. She did try to find a solution to her problem without breaking the school rules. Very true. It's too bad Annie didn't know Eglamore or the Donlans at that point; had she told one of them, they would have believed her. But Annie doesn't have an excuse for lying to Eglamore about not knowing Robot in ch 9. And I can't help but wonder why Annie hasn't told anyone besides Kat about Rey knowing Surma. Considering that they were all childhood friends and knew Reynardine for at least five years, it's likely that Eglamore or Mr or Mrs Donlan know what Rey knows. (By the way, that's possibly why Rey is being so reticent about how he knew Surma: he assumes that that particular info is Annie's main reason for keeping him around. He's not going to tell Annie anything until he can trust that she won't hand him over to Eglamore immediately afterwards.) I'm having a hard time getting a handle on Annie's relationship with Eglamore. She seems to resent or distrust him, but the only reasons she's stated for disliking him is his imprisonment of Reynardine and the poor advice he gave in ch 9. Annie seems to trust the body snatching demon who tried to kill her more than she trusts the man who saved her from said demon. |
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Post by xux on Jul 7, 2007 5:11:35 GMT
Perhaps the people of the forest believe that Annie kidnapped Shadow 2 or maybe brainwashed him into leaving and they want him back.
And I think Mr. Eglamore yelling "Surma" after her while she was falling to her doom might've contributed to her dislike of him.
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Post by Count Casimir on Jul 7, 2007 5:18:22 GMT
Is his yelling of said name just from the fact that Annie looks so much like her, or did something similar happen to Surma?
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Post by Goatmon on Jul 7, 2007 8:59:07 GMT
Looks like there's going to be a meeting of the highest order
"The god of the forest is very upset! He is infuriated that your people dared to send a filthy machine into our woods!"
"Surely we can do something to appease him.."
"The forest god will spare you pitiful humans of his wrath, if you are willing to meet his terms."
"Terms?"
"Yes. First! The forest god demands pie!"
"...Pie?"
"Did I stutter, human?"
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Post by Aura on Jul 7, 2007 9:00:14 GMT
(By the way, that's possibly why Rey is being so reticent about how he knew Surma: he assumes that that particular info is Annie's main reason for keeping him around. He's not going to tell Annie anything until he can trust that she won't hand him over to Eglamore immediately afterwards.) I don't think so... www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=163But this whole matter is very interesting...If the GC people are not even allowed to cross the bridge, then why is it there? |
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Post by todd on Jul 7, 2007 10:34:47 GMT
Well, the children aren't allowed to cross the bridge. But others might be allowed to cross it - and have a need to cross it at some point.
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Post by owl on Jul 7, 2007 15:14:01 GMT
Hmmm...all this discussion of faculty makes me think. The brass-buttoned sillhouettes of the early chapter, and Zimmy's past, seem to be quite different from teachers such as Mr. and Mrs. Donlan and Eglamore. Do ypou think they could be some sort of "council" of teachers or something? The board of education, maybe? I'd expect a school like GC would have it's own.
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Post by UbiquitousDragon on Jul 7, 2007 16:29:58 GMT
Hmmm...all this discussion of faculty makes me think. The brass-buttoned sillhouettes of the early chapter, and Zimmy's past, seem to be quite different from teachers such as Mr. and Mrs. Donlan and Eglamore. Do ypou think they could be some sort of "council" of teachers or something? The board of education, maybe? I'd expect a school like GC would have it's own. Maybe,cbut there was this guy in the first chapter, here and here also. So he's some sort of staff ... |
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Post by owl on Jul 7, 2007 20:30:01 GMT
You're right. But what I was thinking was that maybe they were keeping an eye on Annie or soem reason...perhaps pertaining to her parents?
I dunno. Just a notion.
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Post by todd on Jul 7, 2007 23:19:04 GMT
Looking over the potential charges that the forest-folk are likely to have against Annie:
1. Sending Robot into Gillitie Wood.
Annie fortunately has the defense here that she needed to find some way of getting Shadow2 back to Gillitie Wood, and this was the only one that she could think of, since she was not allowed to leave school grounds. She also didn't know at the time about how the forest-folk would respond to a robot showing up in the wood (and Shadow2 didn't communicate that to her either).
Of course, this will be undermined by the fact that Shadow2 wound up going back to live in the school (see 3, below).
2. Invading the woods (as the result of her rushing out onto the bridge).
While Annie only wound up in the woods because she was knocked over the bridge, she's more culpable here; this time, she was knowingly breaking school rules, and without any justification (I'll have to read Chapter Seven again, but I don't think that there was any overriding reason why she couldn't have waited for Robot to reach the school steps - I get the suspicion that she allowed her distraught feelings that evening to get the better of her usual prudence).
3. Bringing Shadow2 back to the school (which, according to Reynardine, will be seen as kidnapping).
Shadow2 asked to return, but unfortunately, it's his word and Annie's against the forest-folk's (and the forest-folk might see Shadow2 as having been brainwashed). Of course, as I said above, his request is going to undermine Annie's defense against the first charge.
I don't know, at present, how good a case they might have against our heroine. An additional complication is going to come from the fact that she concealed her actions regarding Robot and Shadow2 from Mrs. Donlan and Mr. Eglamore, which is certain to lead to trouble.
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