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Post by Max on Nov 9, 2011 8:00:50 GMT
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Post by crater on Nov 9, 2011 8:06:03 GMT
Dissapointing, Robot! you didn't even make her teleport!
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Post by Eversist on Nov 9, 2011 8:08:14 GMT
You know, I thought Robot was going to give Parley a harder time of it, with faster reflexes, etc. I guess the robots are more human than I thought, and they have to learn, just like us... or Parley is even more talented than I previously imagined. It doesn't look like he was trying to go easy on her...
Vedy nice page.
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Post by Amethyst on Nov 9, 2011 8:11:49 GMT
Or his cobbled together body in a hoodie isn't exactly up to agile par with Diego's elegant S1 fencing machine.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 9, 2011 8:24:14 GMT
He's demonstrated some some impressive agility in the past with this body. I think Robot just isn't programmed or practiced at being a sparring partner. Remember this? |
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Post by notacat on Nov 9, 2011 8:31:09 GMT
There's no reason at all to suppose that this sequence took any more than a minute, or that it was the only bout. There's also no reason to suppose that this is a sequence from a single bout.
I think we're getting a rather nicely-drawn montage showing a very few highlights of a long and exhausting practice session. Let's see how this pans out before we draw any conclusions.
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Post by Max on Nov 9, 2011 8:31:42 GMT
Yeah, but while that required strength and flexibility, it didn't require the fast movements and reflexes that sword fighting does. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 9, 2011 9:01:56 GMT
Yeah, but while that required strength and flexibility, it didn't require the fast movements and reflexes that sword fighting does. I suppose the demand on his reflexes and improvisational skills depends on whether Robot only parkors over fully-known routes or not. |
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Post by pasko on Nov 9, 2011 9:25:01 GMT
Robot was also able to catch/block Frankenbot, which was Diego's design.
So it seems more Parley's merit than Robot's flaw.
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Post by basser on Nov 9, 2011 10:30:49 GMT
Broadsword vs epee? That doesn't really seem like a matched fight. (Though now that I look back through the archives it seems Jeanne is also a fencer. I guess her ghost sword is like a sabre or something? I don't really know anything about swords beyond what I picked up reading The Three Musketeers.) |
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Post by mudmaniac on Nov 9, 2011 10:36:55 GMT
I think Robot was just starting out at "Easy Mode".
Alternatively, I also think it is a possibility that the "Spare Parts" body is no up to snuff.
Third possibility is a "Three laws" impediment on Robot.
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Post by eightyfour on Nov 9, 2011 10:39:01 GMT
I think Robot is just going easy on her. Other than that, yes Tom, this kinda does qualify as fanservice (because it is pretty much exactly what all the fants want to see!)  |
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Post by Alexandragon on Nov 9, 2011 10:57:35 GMT
Dissapointing, Robot! you didn't even make her teleport! Me too( I expected a lot more action! P.S.: Maybe Robby has failed because he has rapier and she has a two-handed sword?! Or that just "Easy mode" on? |
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Post by mikeymikemikey on Nov 9, 2011 11:58:36 GMT
Let's see. I like European swords and sword fighting styles. I'm fond of Parley and S1. And I love this comic. Hell yeah it is! Although, I am disappointed in S1. I mean, using a thin thrusting sword like that to block a big, honking two-hander blade? I'm surprised the thing didn't break. Br (Though now that I look back through the archives it seems Jeanne is also a fencer. I guess her ghost sword is like a sabre or something? I don't really know anything about swords beyond what I picked up reading The Three Musketeers.) Her sword in ghost form, at least here, appears to be either a 15th century backsword (the middle one in that pic) or one of the transitional predecessor designs to the later Renaissance-era side-swords and rapiers. |
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Post by Ulysses on Nov 9, 2011 12:14:53 GMT
To me this page reads like it only lasted for a few seconds.
1) Robot lunges, Parley twists and traps his blade
2) Parley releases his blade, bringing him in too far, and raises her own ready for 3) where...
3) ...she pushes forward with the hilt. Robot brings his own blade back in time to block but...
4) ... he overbalances and is pushed over.
Either that or, as notacat said, it's just a montage, and the location of Shadow 2 on Robot's body is used to show the passing of time.
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Post by maryshrieks on Nov 9, 2011 13:25:27 GMT
Can I just say that I NEED a version of Robot's sweatshirt in the top panel? It is amazing.
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Post by BingsF on Nov 9, 2011 13:45:44 GMT
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Post by jandor on Nov 9, 2011 14:03:56 GMT
I hope there is a round 2 on Friday  |
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Post by legion on Nov 9, 2011 14:40:46 GMT
Broadsword vs epee? That doesn't really seem like a matched fight. Yeah, I was told that at equivalent levels of competence, a rapier is no match for a true sword. Still, cool page! |
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Post by mikeymikemikey on Nov 9, 2011 15:12:07 GMT
Broadsword vs epee? That doesn't really seem like a matched fight. Yeah, I was told that at equivalent levels of competence, a rapier is no match for a true sword. Still, cool page! It's not about this sword is better than that sword. That's the biggest mistake about sword versus sword arguments. Different swords have different characteristics--and a swordsman knows how to overcome weaknesses and exploit advantages. It really comes down to skill and proper technique. The problem here is that the rapier isn't being used like a rapier. It's a speed and thrusting weapon, not a brute-force swinging weapon. Rapier against a heavy sword like that? You don't take it head on. You dodge, you harass, and you quickly step inside their guard (preferably while the one with the heavier weapon is recovering from the momentum of the swing) and stab quickly. |
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Post by jandor on Nov 9, 2011 15:50:49 GMT
Broadsword vs epee? That doesn't really seem like a matched fight. Yeah, I was told that at equivalent levels of competence, a rapier is no match for a true sword. Still, cool page! Well, you were told wrong  . They didn't become more popular than the older styles of sword because of their suckiness ;D. Edit: Well, it was also partly because armour fell out of general use. But against an unarmoured opponent fencing/rapier is generally superior because of its long range and faster lighter movements compared to a larger or two handed sword. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Nov 9, 2011 16:07:14 GMT
Yeah, I was told that at equivalent levels of competence, a rapier is no match for a true sword. Still, cool page! Well, you were told wrong . They didn't become more popular than the older styles of sword because of their suckiness ;D. They became more popular because fencing became a sport, rather than a combat exercise. Epee is a sport weapon. Rapier was a dueling weapon. Sidesword and up, now you're getting into something that might have seen combat. Edit: Yes, the armor thing too. Rapier in the hands of a body guard, merchant, member of the court? Sure, lethal weapon. Soldier, as Jeanne's been described...well, I suppose the Forest-folk probably weren't well armored either. |
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Post by jandor on Nov 9, 2011 16:24:13 GMT
Well, thats the thing isn't it. Guns had made armour rather redundant when Rapiers and similar swords became popular.
Plus, this is Gunnerkrigg Court. I wouldn't want to use a Rapier on even wooden armour really, but an etheric Rapier? Well, thats different ;D .
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Post by BingsF on Nov 9, 2011 17:05:34 GMT
Don't forget: Dear readers, this comic is a work of fiction. |
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Post by rainofsteel on Nov 9, 2011 17:09:09 GMT
Tom's comment asks if the comic page qualifies as fan service. I vote no.
I agree that the bout seemed a little lackluster on Robby's part.
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Post by jandor on Nov 9, 2011 17:51:44 GMT
Tom's comment asks if the comic page qualifies as fan service. I vote no. I agree that the bout seemed a little lackluster on Robby's part. Chapter ain't over yet |
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Post by myzelf on Nov 9, 2011 18:02:54 GMT
The problem here is that the rapier isn't being used like a rapier. It's a speed and thrusting weapon, not a brute-force swinging weapon. Rapier against a heavy sword like that? You don't take it head on. You dodge, you harass, and you quickly step inside their guard (preferably while the one with the heavier weapon is recovering from the momentum of the swing) and stab quickly. I agree with this. Due I'd guess to a lack of programming/experience, Robot isn't able to wield his chosen weapon effectively. Parley isn't going to accomplish much sparring against an opponent with no skill. I also think she should have chosen a lighter weapon. The main advantage of a broadsword is its potential damage (and reach, but I don't think she has that here), but since the match is intended as a distraction, that serves no purpose. |
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Post by Refugee on Nov 9, 2011 19:26:52 GMT
I suspect Parley's skill goes beyond mere sword handling.
I also have to wonder if her snugglebunny is giving her remote assists, making sure that her blade just happens to be in the right place at the right time.
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Post by Elm on Nov 9, 2011 20:09:05 GMT
I suspect Parley's skill goes beyond mere sword handling. I also have to wonder if her snugglebunny is giving her remote assists, making sure that her blade just happens to be in the right place at the right time. Haha! It would be really funny if that were the case! I never thought of it that way. That also makes me wonder: If you just put Smits up against Jeanne, would he win out of pure negative entropic luck? Or would his talent not work against ghosts at all? |
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Post by November on Nov 9, 2011 21:22:53 GMT
Haha! It would be really funny if that were the case! I never thought of it that way. That also makes me wonder: If you just put Smits up against Jeanne, would he win out of pure negative entropic luck? Or would his talent not work against ghosts at all? I don't think that's how his skill works. I think he probably heals faster than other people, considering there's never any complications and the muscle fibres will be in the right place, but I don't believe it will protect him from all harm. It just creates order wherever he goes. There's nothing out of order, if someone who can't fight and is defeated by someone who can. So I don't think whether the opponent is a ghost or anything else has any affect on how it works out. |
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