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Post by Max on May 30, 2011 7:01:03 GMT
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Post by crater on May 30, 2011 7:05:52 GMT
I knew it!
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:06:33 GMT
She's a Spark! Either that or this is her latent etheric ability blossoming. As for the codes complexity, maybe its like DNA in that respect? Except way more complex? crater: Huh?
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Post by joephlommin on May 30, 2011 7:06:37 GMT
Trololololololol the matrix. Is funneh because is from the 90s.
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:09:59 GMT
Trololololololol the matrix. Is funneh because is from the 90s. I don't think its the matrix, and they're still using symbols, just not actually using words along with the complex grammar, which is probably what that robot is referring to. So, its more like DNA.
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Post by Max on May 30, 2011 7:13:27 GMT
I don't think its the matrix, and they're still using symbols, just not actually using words along with the complex grammar, which is probably what that robot is referring to. So, its more like DNA. Pretty sure he was referring to my thread comment.
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:16:36 GMT
I don't think its the matrix, and they're still using symbols, just not actually using words along with the complex grammar, which is probably what that robot is referring to. So, its more like DNA. Pretty sure he was referring to my thread comment. I'm lost here, l. ol. I don't get what the thread comment has to do with The Matrix. Also, I wonder if Tom is aware of the GirlGenius comic? Kat certainly seems like a spark at times, minus the usual mad scientist behavior though.
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Post by Max on May 30, 2011 7:24:19 GMT
It's a quote from the film where Neo is talking to Cypher in front of several Matrix code screens. Cypher tells Neo that you get used to reading the code after a while, and all he sees is "Blonde, Brunette, Redhead." I thought of the quote when I saw this page.
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Post by hifranc on May 30, 2011 7:27:26 GMT
Given that Kat can read it, and it wasn't meant to be readable by humans, does that mean that, like Annie, Kat isn't exactly human?
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Post by Yin on May 30, 2011 7:30:10 GMT
What an auspicious page number for such a discovery.
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:38:06 GMT
Given that Kat can read it, and it wasn't meant to be readable by humans, does that mean that, like Annie, Kat isn't exactly human? If shes human, she is a very exceptional human. She has her parents knack for machines and theres the etheric computer Anja and Donny designed. We know Anja has some kind of etheric ability, so Kat could have something like that, but its been pretty much latent until now. In the Treatises, Kat was associated with various water related things, usually the moon, so its probably been in speculation for a long time. What an auspicious page number for such a discovery. 888 as in three times infinity?
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Post by Max on May 30, 2011 7:39:06 GMT
Given that Kat can read it, and it wasn't meant to be readable by humans, does that mean that, like Annie, Kat isn't exactly human? Reminds me of this Question to Tom and the ensuing discussion. Kat's on the list, so this might be it.
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Post by Trism on May 30, 2011 7:50:24 GMT
Muahaha! If my long suspected suspicion (linked above) about kat rings true, then I win the gigantic cookie!
EDIT: Also, gosh golly, I posted that in January 2009! How long have I been obsessively reading this webcomic!
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:52:17 GMT
Given that Kat can read it, and it wasn't meant to be readable by humans, does that mean that, like Annie, Kat isn't exactly human? Reminds me of this Question to Tom and the ensuing discussion. Kat's on the list, so this might be it. Only thing though, is that Jones is on the list as well, but there seems to have been speculation for a long time that Kat might not be fully human either.
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Post by Rex on May 30, 2011 7:52:51 GMT
He probably said no because of Jones, though.
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Post by madragoran on May 30, 2011 7:54:40 GMT
Heh... as much as I like Annie and the mystery that surrounds her, I am most attracted to Kat, especially when she does science stuff (a reason I also follow Girl Genius). Today's page resonates a lot too, because having worked with a stereoscopic microscope I love her set up. Also the attempt at a made up symbolic language whose writen manifestation is three dimensional is very interesting and very Contact like (the film). In short yay for science! and Kat ofc!
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Post by smjjames on May 30, 2011 7:56:38 GMT
Still doesn't stop speculation though, and if Kat is human, she is an exceptional human.
Anyways, the chapters title of Give and Take doesn't seem to have applied to anything yet, unless its a general thing like giving the cube and taking the knowledge from it.
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Post by warrl on May 30, 2011 8:06:31 GMT
This page made me think of Samuel Delaney's book Babel-17. In that book there is a language capable of extreme conciseness of at least certain kinds of ideas. (Saying no more because of risk of spoilers.)
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Post by mattstriker on May 30, 2011 8:15:10 GMT
888 as in three times infinity? Plus a whole number of other connotations, particularly in chinese numerology. '8' can stand for wealth or -in cantonese- fortune. Repeating a number generally makes it even more relevant. Three 8s in a row would be an extremely auspicious number, and if you managed to land a phone or license plate number with 888 in it in, say, hong kong, you'd be the envy of your entire neighborhood. There's another thing that came to mind with the '888', though: Yeah, I have no idea why I thought of that either .
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Post by Eversist on May 30, 2011 8:30:31 GMT
Hah, seems my "crazy theories" thread post about Kat (and postulations others have made) may not be so crazy after all. Wonder if this mystery will be resolved inthis chapter. But if we know anything about Tom's plot-revealing style, then it's a big NOPE. Love it.
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Post by bongo on May 30, 2011 8:52:34 GMT
Given that Kat can read it, and it wasn't meant to be readable by humans, does that mean that, like Annie, Kat isn't exactly human? At this point, these are the main options: Kat is human, but her exceptional talent with machines gives her this ability. Kat is Superhuman/Posthuman/Transhuman in some way. I wouldn't put it past her to have made some kind of cyborg of herself. Kat is partially non-human a la Annie. Perhaps an ancestor is the spirit of a laboratory or machine shop, if Tom is willing to use Shinto as a source of weird stuff. Kat is entirely non-human.
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Post by Chemical Rascal on May 30, 2011 9:13:50 GMT
Now it's only a matter of time before the government takes her aside and turns her into a super weapon.
Oh, come on. We all know that's how the final arc will end.
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Post by secondofnone on May 30, 2011 9:30:05 GMT
At this point, these are the main options: Kat is human, but her exceptional talent with machines gives her this ability. Kat is Superhuman/Posthuman/Transhuman in some way. I wouldn't put it past her to have made some kind of cyborg of herself. Kat is partially non-human a la Annie. Perhaps an ancestor is the spirit of a laboratory or machine shop, if Tom is willing to use Shinto as a source of weird stuff. Kat is entirely non-human. I'm voting that Kat is merely human, with an exceptional talent, ala vinyl vision. Which ties into the fact that just because the robots' code was "never designed to be read by humans", that doesn't mean that no humans can read it.
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Post by coreshadow on May 30, 2011 10:44:27 GMT
So how long did it take us to figure annie out? And how long are we gonna have to wait to see why kat is hyper-robo-code-compatible?
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Post by zylonbane on May 30, 2011 11:51:05 GMT
As an actual computer programmer, I'm just going to have to grit my teeth and go with the flow on this one.
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Post by fish on May 30, 2011 11:51:39 GMT
Aww, that robot and Annie not offending each other, so cute
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Post by Alexandragon on May 30, 2011 12:04:49 GMT
So Kat's "power" is ability to understanding of this stuff such as Diego had...
Interesting and nice page)
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Post by basser on May 30, 2011 12:08:55 GMT
As an actual computer programmer, I'm just going to have to grit my teeth and go with the flow on this one. Hey man join the club. I'm a biology major working in a metals lab, basically everything in this comic makes me go "wait, what?" but I roll along regardless.
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Post by legion on May 30, 2011 12:15:52 GMT
Kat is the descendent of a human and a machine code interpreter!
What an interesting first union it must have been!
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Post by rainofsteel on May 30, 2011 12:21:24 GMT
About the last panel, for whatever reason, I liked it better when Annie could assemble robots (from way back in chapter one) and it appeared that she was doing so on her own.
If there is an etheric component to all of these Diego-level robots, then technically speaking, if Annie just let her mind wander through the components, I think she should be able to assemble them just like she did for Robot.
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