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Post by Max on May 11, 2011 7:01:34 GMT
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Post by smjjames on May 11, 2011 7:04:21 GMT
Keeping her safe, from.... what exactly?
Shadow2 is thinking the same thing we are in that it's stalkerish creepy, and the jacket doesn't help the image much either.
Also, Tom is being wierd with his perspectives because it's way zoomed out compared to the previous page. On the previous page, it looked like Robot was on the same building or a next door one, on this page it now looks like he is at least a block away.
However, it's possible that Robot doesn't understand how creepy he actually is when stalking.
Seriously, he needs to man up and go talk to Kat about his feelings than just stalking.
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Post by eightyfour on May 11, 2011 7:37:38 GMT
Keeping her safe, from.... what exactly? Well, next time some Kids are heckling her, we'll have Robot popping out of no where to "defend" Kat, making a big scene out of it.  |
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Post by Max on May 11, 2011 7:49:59 GMT
Quiet comment thread tonight.
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Post by Alexandragon on May 11, 2011 9:19:10 GMT
How sentimental and creepy at the same time...  Shadow's 2 reaction on Robot's words are interesting... Especially considering, that Shadow hides with Robot's help from the Court... |
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Post by infinitysquared on May 11, 2011 9:19:40 GMT
*Unleashes the crickets!*
Anyway, it is creepy that Robot is stalking Kat. I'm sensing something related to Diego perhaps.
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Post by Alexandragon on May 11, 2011 9:30:19 GMT
*Unleashes the crickets!* Anyway, it is creepy that Robot is stalking Kat. I'm sensing something related to Diego perhaps. Hmmmmmmm. I think YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!! ((((((((((((((( Agrh! Round 1 Fight! Diego VS Robot(Diego's Alter-ego in steel) ;D  |
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Post by Yin on May 11, 2011 11:47:47 GMT
Nice to see Shadow taking a bigger role.
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Post by rainofsteel on May 11, 2011 12:29:46 GMT
Robot thinks Kat is an angel and as far as I know, likes Annie, too. They're safe from him unless he's been reprogrammed.
I think the creepy part is wondering why Robot thinks the guard duty is necessary.
The robots appear to know about Jeanne and know that Annie and Kat know about her. Did some of the robots tell these facts to Court officials? Does Robot know this happened? Was the Court already spying on Annie and Kat all along and in the know anyway? An older version of the Court did not hesitate to sacrifice Jeanne when it benefited them. Does the modern Court view the maintenance of the current state of affairs on the river as necessary? What would they do, how far would they go, to maintain it or the secrecy surrounding it?
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Post by infinitysquared on May 11, 2011 13:05:00 GMT
It's implied that Anja and Donald know about Jeanne too. Either they haven't told the Court, or they have and the Court thinks it necessary to continue the security of the Court, either that or the Court doesn't know how to fix it. Muut himself has told that Jeanne is stuck, and Annie has been the first person to try to help.
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Post by jayne on May 11, 2011 13:18:55 GMT
Well, the girls are on a rooftop of an abandoned (probably) building at sunset... Their creepy stalker/robot buddy will be pretty handy as soon as they realize they don't have enough light to get down from there.
I think the general idea is that Robot has a crush on Kat... how a robot can develop a crush is a good question... what a robot will do about it is another good question.
People who are Kat and Annie's age don't always know how to deal with attraction at first. Kat handled her first crush very well I think but she had help from Annie.
I'm thinking Robot is currently at their level of development. Shadow seems a bit younger but not by much.
So is Robot at the stage where he's attracted to Kat but too afraid to approach her? Last time, he had a bad case of "gosh golly, did I do something wrong??? Does she hate me now??"
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Post by King Mir on May 11, 2011 13:22:12 GMT
The robots appear to know about Jeanne and know that Annie and Kat know about her. Did some of the robots tell these facts to Court officials? Does Robot know this happened? Was the Court already spying on Annie and Kat all along and in the know anyway? An older version of the Court did not hesitate to sacrifice Jeanne when it benefited them. Does the modern Court view the maintenance of the current state of affairs on the river as necessary? What would they do, how far would they go, to maintain it or the secrecy surrounding it? They don't tell her everything, though. |
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Post by eightyfour on May 11, 2011 13:43:13 GMT
Robot thinks Kat is an angel and as far as I know, likes Annie, too. They're safe from him unless he's been reprogrammed. Well, that highly depends on how he is programmed. Liking someone doesn't necessarily stop you from hurting them. That makes me think... I believe it was mentioned before somewhere, but are the Court robots actually three-laws-safe (I think yes, but I can't remember where I read it)? Considering S13 being a bit of a special case, is that programming even still binding to him? |
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Post by percival on May 11, 2011 13:57:39 GMT
*Unleashes the crickets!* Anyway, it is creepy that Robot is stalking Kat. I'm sensing something related to Diego perhaps. Hmmmmmmm. I think YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!! ((((((((((((((( Agrh! Round 1 Fight! Diego VS Robot(Diego's Alter-ego in steel) ;D If this is the case, might Kat be in trouble if she ever rejects robot in any way? |
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Post by q3 on May 11, 2011 14:25:58 GMT
Is Robot keeping Kat safe, or Annie? Perhaps Annie brought back one too many secrets from the forest, and now the other robots are trying to assassinate her. "Come with me if you want to live."
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Post by blahzor on May 11, 2011 14:42:22 GMT
Well, the girls are on a rooftop of an abandoned (probably) building at sunset... Their creepy stalker/robot buddy will be pretty handy as soon as they realize they don't have enough light to get down from there. when Annie is around you ALWAYS have enough light |
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Post by legion on May 11, 2011 14:43:26 GMT
It's implied that Anja and Donald know about Jeanne too. When? |
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Post by rageboy on May 11, 2011 15:02:21 GMT
It's implied that Anja and Donald know about Jeanne too. When? Going with legion on this. Especially because of these two pages. |
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Post by jayne on May 11, 2011 15:04:05 GMT
Well, the girls are on a rooftop of an abandoned (probably) building at sunset... Their creepy stalker/robot buddy will be pretty handy as soon as they realize they don't have enough light to get down from there. when Annie is around you ALWAYS have enough light Ah, this is true... insta-blinker-torch! |
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Post by jayne on May 11, 2011 15:06:23 GMT
Going with legion on this. Especially because of these two pages. I think its assumed Kat would have talked to her parents about Jeanne at some point. Jeanne's a pretty amazing thing and Kat gets along fine with her folks so she would probably mention her to them. Its not guaranteed, of course. Maybe the subject never came up. |
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Post by bnpederson on May 11, 2011 15:48:54 GMT
Is Robot keeping Kat safe, or Annie? Perhaps Annie brought back one too many secrets from the forest, and now the other robots are trying to assassinate her. "Come with me if you want to live." This. I'm relatively sure Tom had a reason for not outright stating which "she" Robot is referring to. |
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Post by goldenknots on May 11, 2011 16:32:19 GMT
Well, Annie's supposed to be on detention, maybe Robot knows that and is worried for her.
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Post by TBeholder on May 11, 2011 17:35:03 GMT
Shadow2 is thinking the same thing we are in that it's stalkerish creepy, I dunno, maybe he doesn't know the newspeak. Then he's thinking it's just creepy. Seriously, he needs to man up and go talk to Kat about his feelings than just stalking. Doesn't S13 do this all the time given half a chance? *Unleashes the crickets!* 2001 new intruders detected! SECURTIY LOCKDOWN INITIATED! ;D It's implied that Anja and Donald know about Jeanne too. Errr... where? I believe it was mentioned before somewhere, but are the Court robots actually three-laws-safe (I think yes, but I can't remember where I read it)? - They aren't true 3-laws, since Seraphs refused to stop and Doorbot did flat-out deny passage into a non-dangerous area. So much for humans' orders.
- 3-laws "as is" would be unsafe setup, since this means a robot while acting on the 1-st law as it interpretes it will overriding all and any commands that would stop this behaviour.
Including ones that predictably lead to changes of the 1-st law's interpretation, since this means it will be unable to act on 1-st law in the currently enforced form. Together with "inaction" clause this may make the robot permanently out of control.
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Post by smjjames on May 11, 2011 18:26:05 GMT
I believe it was mentioned before somewhere, but are the Court robots actually three-laws-safe (I think yes, but I can't remember where I read it)? - They aren't true 3-laws, since Seraphs refused to stop and Doorbot did flat-out deny passage into a non-dangerous area. So much for humans' orders.
It could also be restricted to staff only or the children need at least an escort. Not that Renard wouldn't count as an escort, the court robots just didn't recognize him as such at the time. The escort part isn't clear since they went in with the robot king. I agree though, it doesn't look like the true 3 laws since the robots have a good deal of free will and flexibility. |
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Post by goldenknots on May 11, 2011 18:51:43 GMT
2001 new intruders detected! SECURTIY LOCKDOWN INITIATED! ;D They're supposed to be there, but now they need identity badges. |
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Post by Max on May 11, 2011 19:02:59 GMT
It's implied that Anja and Donald know about Jeanne too. When? Well, there's this page. |
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Post by penguinfactory on May 11, 2011 19:53:29 GMT
Is anyone else picturing Robot sounding like Legion from Mass Effect 2? When Gunnerkrigg Court gets made into a cartoon series that will earn Tom piles of cash money, they should make him sound like that.
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Post by goldenknots on May 11, 2011 20:23:54 GMT
But the awareness may not extend beyond the existence of the painting and the obsession of the robots with it. Antimony's the one who is most knowledgeable about it and she's also the one who is least likely to talk about it outside of her circle. Kat may or may not have mentioned it to her parents -- chances are she didn't, since Parley said not to discuss it with anyone else, "Not until I can see her again." |
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Post by smjjames on May 11, 2011 22:02:47 GMT
But the awareness may not extend beyond the existence of the painting and the obsession of the robots with it. Antimony's the one who is most knowledgeable about it and she's also the one who is least likely to talk about it outside of her circle. Kat may or may not have mentioned it to her parents -- chances are she didn't, since Parley said not to discuss it with anyone else, "Not until I can see her again." That was a long time after Kat knew about it, at least one school year, maybe even two, had passed by the time Parley and Andrew helped them out. |
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Post by todd on May 11, 2011 22:24:24 GMT
That was a long time after Kat knew about it, at least one school year, maybe even two, had passed by the time Parley and Andrew helped them out. Less than a school year, in fact (though it probably seemed longer than that to us because of the real-life length of the comic and the break in the middle of the second school year). (No wonder a lot of people were expecting to see Anthony soon; they'd probably become confused over the internal chronology and thought that they were in the third year at the Court instead of the second.) If the Court *did* know about the robots' records of Jeanne, they'd probably have erased those records in a hurry and done everything they could to prevent the robots from telling anyone. I think it's more likely that they're in the dark about her. |
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