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Post by Max on Nov 3, 2010 7:00:56 GMT
Poor YsyBut...if they didn't tell her in the first place, how would Rey find out? Also, this would mark the first time Annie has left both the Court and the Forest since she arrived, no?
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Post by hal9000 on Nov 3, 2010 7:02:41 GMT
Yep, the court are still a bunch of dicks. Holding political prisoners is a sure sign of a repressive regime.
Free Reynardine!
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Post by edzepp on Nov 3, 2010 7:02:43 GMT
Wow, it's school break already? At least Annie won't be by herself.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Nov 3, 2010 7:03:09 GMT
not really. coyote knows better than to make a demigod out of a genocidal maniac. |
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Post by Alex on Nov 3, 2010 7:04:08 GMT
He still doesn't know? That's monstrous.
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Post by Max on Nov 3, 2010 7:08:10 GMT
not really. coyote knows better than to make a demigod out of a genocidal maniac. Oh, I wasn't suggesting it was a bad idea not to give him powers, just that Coyote completely ignores him ( "forever young and healthy"), a fact which Annie seems to be thinking about in Panel 3. |
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Post by Tracker4502 on Nov 3, 2010 7:09:44 GMT
I know this is beating a dead horse, but personally I think we're only getting one side of the story again. Namely, the Court's public line. We've seen those familiar with Reynard reference as to how he tried to kill Antimony, but I personally believe that his attempt was all part of the act. After all, if he truly wanted a new body he could have taken her on the roof instead of inside the heavily fortified prison.
Now, I'm not saying that Surma is blameless in the entire affair, but at the very least it allows us to cast reasonable doubt upon the validity of Mrs. Donlan's explanation.
PS: Hello everyone.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Nov 3, 2010 7:10:01 GMT
He still doesn't know? That's monstrous. Yeah. Yes it is. Dare I say, GOSH THE POWERS THAT BE AT GUNNERKRIGG COURT WHO MADE THE DECISION TO PLAY RENARD LIKE A FOOL ARE COLLECTIVELY A HUGE BITCH, BLUH BLUH (now let's have 8 pages of meaningless fuss about the preceding sentence! bluh bluh, winky face.) |
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Nov 3, 2010 7:10:58 GMT
not really. coyote knows better than to make a demigod out of a genocidal maniac. Oh, I wasn't suggesting it was a bad idea not to give him powers, just that Coyote completely ignores him ( "forever young and healthy"), a fact which Annie seems to be thinking about in Panel 3. aha, gotcha |
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Post by Max on Nov 3, 2010 7:11:54 GMT
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Post by Rex on Nov 3, 2010 7:19:10 GMT
Well, this just confirms what Tom has told use about Coyote and whom he favors more. That said, it looks like we'll finally get to see any leave GC for a bit. That time away will do her and Kat a world of good, I bet.
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Post by King Mir on Nov 3, 2010 7:49:37 GMT
I have a feeling that Annie is going off to tell Reynardine now.
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Post by Goatmon on Nov 3, 2010 7:49:46 GMT
Yep, the court decided, so that's it then. Too bad, Renard, the court wants you put DOWN, so we've got to trick you into giving us an excuse to lock you away. Not like we wouldn't have done it anyway, but now we feel less bad about it. It's not like this is, y'know, the exact sort of thing that drove Coyote to separate the forest from us in the first place.  |
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Post by Goatmon on Nov 3, 2010 7:52:56 GMT
I have a feeling that Annie is going off to tell Reynardine now. I don't know about that. She's not the most romantically sensitive gal, but I think even she might be hesitant to tell Reynardine that the one good thing he knew from the court was a total lie and a deliberate act to lock him in the court. After all, if he truly wanted a new body he could have taken her on the roof instead of inside the heavily fortified prison. This is wishful thinking. And you forget that Eglamore was watching them both the entire time. Had he possessed her there, "he" wouldn't have been difficult to catch. |
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Post by Max on Nov 3, 2010 8:03:11 GMT
The fact that no one else is mentioning this makes me worry I am about to ask something really stupid, but here goes. I don't understand what Anja is saying in the fourth panel. If they didn't want Rey to find out about the trickery, why would they tell Annie about it in the first place? Why can't Rey be allowed to find out?
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Post by ryos on Nov 3, 2010 8:04:42 GMT
Is it just me, or do I detect a hint of bitterness in Anja towards the court and its decisions?
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Post by eightyfour on Nov 3, 2010 8:13:27 GMT
Rey might have been blinded by love, but he isn't stupid. He probably doesn't know, but I'd wager he has his suspicions. That said... packing some more? Homework? Does that sound like bad excuses for getting out of there to anyone else, too? |
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Post by serendipity on Nov 3, 2010 9:30:46 GMT
Isn't...Rey still bound to Annie's will? I mean, can he even hurt anyone now without her permission?
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Post by eightyfour on Nov 3, 2010 9:40:06 GMT
Isn't...Rey still bound to Annie's will? I mean, can he even hurt anyone now without her permission? No, he can't right now. But to some people that may not be enough. Also, again, Rey is not stupid. If he really wanted to, he could find a way to cause a lot of mayhem even in his current state. |
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Post by Flux on Nov 3, 2010 10:13:34 GMT
Is it just me thinking the court is going to do something to Reynard, while Annie is away?
It's the first thing I thought off, while reading this page...
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Post by mojojojo on Nov 3, 2010 10:18:32 GMT
Do we have any independent confirmation that Rey is bound to Annie's will? I doubt it's all a trick - he did stay silent for a week just because Annie forgot to allow him to speak again. But it would/has given him more freedom than if the court knew he was free.
Or a softer version - Jack's demon trap had the side-effect of breaking the contract of ownership, and Reynard only realised later, but decided to keep it quite because he realised it would mean a prison cell for him. Or he hasn't realised himself yet.
Anyway, a bit surprising about Surma applying her wiles in such a way. Wondering if the real love triangle was Surma-Eglamore-Reynard rather than Surma-Eglamore-Annie's dad - with Annie's dad being a safe emotionally detached fallback for a Surma who can't choose between Rey and Eglamore.
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Post by penguinfactory on Nov 3, 2010 10:26:26 GMT
Where is Annie going? I must know.
As to the Court being dicks, I can actually see where they're coming from. They probably figured that Coyote might want to empower Reynardine so he could attack the Court in some way while leaving Coyote himself blameless. Whether or not this was justified depends largely on how great a danger the forest actually is, as opposed to how it's being presented.
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Post by kalechibki on Nov 3, 2010 10:30:28 GMT
I have a feeling that Annie is going off to tell Reynardine now. This was my thought too. Having had a situation in RL where something life changing was happening, and after leaving, I called my best friend to discuss it...only to be called by my boss 20 minutes later to tell me - "Don't tell your best friend what happened!" Well, I politely listened for the rest of the phone call, but not only was he 20 minutes late, I also would have told that person anyway because it was for his best interest, no matter what anyone else thought. I have a feeling Annie's going to at least talk to Rey about his side of it, if not get into the details that she's just gotten. And I wonder where exactly they are off to and for how long? |
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Post by jayne on Nov 3, 2010 10:48:00 GMT
Rey might have been blinded by love, but he isn't stupid. He probably doesn't know, but I'd wager he has his suspicions. That said... packing some more? Homework? Does that sound like bad excuses for getting out of there to anyone else, too? I doubt Annie leaves with them. I bet she chooses to stay with Rey. |
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Post by CGAdam on Nov 3, 2010 10:50:20 GMT
I'll say this, maybe she shouldn't tell him that Surma was playing him, but now might be the right time to let him know his real body is waiting for him.
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Post by todd on Nov 3, 2010 11:18:24 GMT
Whatever else you can say about the things that the Court's done, I'm relieved that none of them have (at least, so far) defended its actions along these lines:
"Yes, murdering Jeanne or deceiving Renard would be wrong if the ordinary people without etheric talents in the outside world did them. But our great quest for knowledge is of such importance that it frees us from these restraints. We can't let such considerations hinder us from our goal. Ours is a high and lonely destiny."
If any of the teachers at the Court start saying something like that, then will be the time for Annie and Kat to pack their bags and leave.
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Post by jayne on Nov 3, 2010 11:25:20 GMT
Whatever else you can say about the things that the Court's done, I'm relieved that none of them have (at least, so far) defended its actions along these lines: "Yes, murdering Jeanne or deceiving Renard would be wrong if the ordinary people without etheric talents in the outside world did them. But our great quest for knowledge is of such importance that it frees us from these restraints. We can't let such considerations hinder us from our goal. Ours is a high and lonely destiny." If any of the teachers at the Court start saying something like that, then will be the time for Annie and Kat to pack their bags and leave. That sounds like something people would say at Young's meeting discussing Jeanne's fate. |
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Post by zskhaas on Nov 3, 2010 13:06:30 GMT
I think Coyote knew something. Or, at least, suspected it. In Coyote Stories, he says Renard was tricked. Maybe I am wrong, but whatever. I thougth that could be something. |
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Post by tictoc on Nov 3, 2010 13:33:11 GMT
The fact that no one else is mentioning this makes me worry I am about to ask something really stupid, but here goes. I don't understand what Anja is saying in the fourth panel. If they didn't want Rey to find out about the trickery, why would they tell Annie about it in the first place? Why can't Rey be allowed to find out? They told Annie because otherwise she'd wonder why she can't take reynardine out of the court with her. I'm pretty sure reynard should not find out as he's likely to freak out and it's a pretty safe bet he's thought of a few ways to make trouble over his years of indentured servitude. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Nov 3, 2010 14:27:35 GMT
The fact that no one else is mentioning this makes me worry I am about to ask something really stupid, but here goes. I don't understand what Anja is saying in the fourth panel. If they didn't want Rey to find out about the trickery, why would they tell Annie about it in the first place? Why can't Rey be allowed to find out? Is it just me, or do I detect a hint of bitterness in Anja towards the court and its decisions? B may follow A - it's possible that Anja is telling Annie specifically in the hope that she'll do something about it. Personally, I think she just respects Annie enough to give her a reason for why Rey must stay behind apart from, "We told you so, now get in the car." |
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