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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 11, 2013 7:01:42 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Mar 11, 2013 7:03:26 GMT
That's a wheel within a wheel, straight out of Ezekiel, in the upper left corner. Though I don't know the meaning of the repeated symbol on the outside.
EDIT: Those bands in the sky. Possibly references to the "spheres" from the medieval geocentric cosmology?
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 11, 2013 7:05:37 GMT
Her hair is tangled around bones as well.
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Post by chaoticrogue on Mar 11, 2013 7:05:45 GMT
Not going to make any guesses as to what all the symbolism means right now, just want to say that this is probably the best Treatise yet.
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Post by SpitefulFox on Mar 11, 2013 7:06:03 GMT
Why does Kat have a heart with a strike-through? Did she not appreciate the love letter and swear off romance for ever?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Mar 11, 2013 7:07:05 GMT
Why does Kat have a heart with a strike-through? Did she not appreciate the love letter and swear off romance for ever? Perhaps just a reference to her having loved and lost once before.
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Post by Max on Mar 11, 2013 7:09:55 GMT
Things that I noticed: * Annie and Kat are both wearing their schools uniforms. Annie has worn dresses in the past treatises. Kat wore her school uniform in the third treatise and a work overalls in the fourth. * What's that hand grabbing Annie's hair? * Kat's heart is crossed out.
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:11:09 GMT
And beautifully! My favorite part of the treatises is all the different ways Tom manages to keep our heroes connected. Here I really love the roots and computer veins (Or whatever they're called) reaching toward one another. Does anyone else see that eye above Annie as the Microstat 5? Same amount of panels and everything. And those things in Annie's hair: teeth or the mysterious bones? The glass-eyed men too! The court's side has a mechanical one, could that be a premonition of Kat's creations or something the court is trying to produce? Mystery! Isn't the wheel a description of a type of angel? Like the highest order of them appears as a big, scary, eyeball covered, flaming wheel within another wheel? Though the treatises sometimes show what has happened along with what will, right? So I'm sticking with the eye being the microstat 5, especially because of the heart monitor lines.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Mar 11, 2013 7:11:23 GMT
Kat's uniform is neat, while Annie's collar is slightly unbuttoned, and her tie is looser.
The eye with the panels above and below: a symbolic representation of Microsat 5?
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 11, 2013 7:11:23 GMT
I wonder who the two people are on the court side - Smitty and Parley?
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Post by blastdragon on Mar 11, 2013 7:11:42 GMT
That's a wheel within a wheel, straight out of Ezekiel, in the upper left corner. Though I don't know the meaning of the repeated symbol on the outside. EDIT: Those bands in the sky. Possibly references to the "spheres" from the medieval geocentric cosmology? When you look circuit symbols the arrows usually mean light. A rectangle is most of the times an resistor. If I had to guess it means it's a solar resistor, more light means more resistance...
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Post by Interactive System Error on Mar 11, 2013 7:13:36 GMT
Think perhaps the feather to the left of Kat is a reference to Alistair?
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Post by Interactive System Error on Mar 11, 2013 7:15:03 GMT
Also, the figures behind Kat and Annie are probably Robot and Shadow 2.
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:18:35 GMT
Better guess than I had! I thought it was Zimmy and Gamma for some reason. Or her parents! I'm wondering if the heart symbol on Kat's shirt is like a computer program of her own. Her parents have the eye crossed out as theirs, obviously to represent Rey's spooky eye capture before stealing a body but maybe the heart could be something similar?
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Post by Ashley Y on Mar 11, 2013 7:18:38 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on Mar 11, 2013 7:19:43 GMT
Ha, both Annie and Kat have Mona Lisa smiles. I'm trying to make forum avatars from the page, and both girls' smiles completely disappear when I shrink the page down to avatar size.
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Post by Max on Mar 11, 2013 7:20:12 GMT
Does anyone else see that eye above Annie as the Microstat 5? Same amount of panels and everything. Ooh, nice catch! And those things in Annie's hair: teeth or the mysterious bones? They honestly don't look like either to me. I think they are fingers with very greyish skin. Maybe something to do with Zimmy?
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Post by grinningcat on Mar 11, 2013 7:20:22 GMT
Those symbols on the Throne angel are light dependent resistors, yes.
Not sure if the fact that the eye has a spermy looking thing in it is relevant.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 11, 2013 7:20:44 GMT
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Post by exuberancium on Mar 11, 2013 7:21:22 GMT
Everybody is missing the most important part:
Anthony holding Annie's hand who is in turn holding Kat's shoulder.
EDIT: Actually, maybe that's just another student's hand. ...maybe a new character?
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:21:22 GMT
Good find, Ashley Y!
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:25:49 GMT
Everybody is missing the most important part: Anthony holding Annie's hand who is in turn holding Kat's shoulder. EDIT: Actually, maybe that's just another student's hand. ...maybe a new character? Do you mean the hand holding Kat's hand? I think that's just Annie's and she's just wearing a short sleeved top. EDIT: Oh no wait I see it! I think it might be Kat's, though? Reaching around? Now that I think of it, it's sort of an odd position to stand in but I still think it might be Kat.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Mar 11, 2013 7:28:27 GMT
I can't see those "fingers" reaching through Annie's hair as anything besides the bone lasers from the chapter where Annie was hospitalized.
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Post by exuberancium on Mar 11, 2013 7:30:45 GMT
I don't think that's Kat's hand. It doesn't seem to join up with right arm right, unless the perspective is just off
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:32:19 GMT
Same here, if they were more jagged, I'd say they were teeth which was my other theory but nope. Gotta be the spooky bone hands. *shudder* > n <
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Post by whatwashere on Mar 11, 2013 7:39:03 GMT
Yipes, exuberancium. That is a terrible, creepy thing you have discovered. It's where Kat's hand should be, in the place and space of Kat's hand, but it couldn't be hers. That plus who I assume are the Donalins as extensions of the court chip-print make this whole thing rather uncanny.
Certainly not either of Kat's hands, the posture is impossible.
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 7:44:02 GMT
You've rangled me in for sure, Exuberancium. I keep looking and wanting to see Kat's hand but now I can't anymore! And I'm severely freaked out! ; A ; Annie is your daughter but you get your crummy hand off of Kat, ya creep!
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Post by msannthrope on Mar 11, 2013 7:52:49 GMT
I love how the tree branches mirror the circuits branching out. The tiny shadow couple's shadow blending into the circuit pattern is brilliant as well!
I wonder if Ysengrin's memory will be restored or if his missing memories will be found. The symbol of his head is complete and hopefully there will be some resolution for him.
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Post by quoodle on Mar 11, 2013 7:56:14 GMT
Why does Kat have a heart with a strike-through? Did she not appreciate the love letter and swear off romance for ever? Perhaps just a reference to her having loved and lost once before. Actually, it seems to me the opposite - not a "strike-through" - the slots on the side are the remnants of the broken heart and the slash is a bandaid, or a repair. Does anyone else see that eye above Annie as the Microstat 5? Same amount of panels and everything. Interestingly enough - Jones' "wandering eye" symbol looks very similar to the microsat.
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Post by americonedream on Mar 11, 2013 8:05:23 GMT
Does anyone else see that eye above Annie as the Microstat 5? Same amount of panels and everything. Interestingly enough - Jones' "wandering eye" symbol looks very similar to the microsat. [/quote] Ahhh, clever you! I had to look back to that! I'm game for either Jones or Anthony, both could work.
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