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Post by Xan on Oct 22, 2012 9:04:31 GMT
So. There was a THUD. Not a CLANK or anything metallic. I imagine we can cross out the Golden Jones Theory. I liked that theory. Side note: I like this comment as a very compact sample of what these forums are about.
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Post by shirozaki on Oct 22, 2012 9:09:17 GMT
Jones is thinking, "Tch, that was my favorite dress." Though her dress is already torn at the sleeve (See fourth and last panel). Also the wimple seems to indicate that she was married, if what the wikipedia article says is true.
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Post by rafk on Oct 22, 2012 9:31:16 GMT
Just how far back are we going to go? Garden of Eden, maybe.
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 22, 2012 9:43:14 GMT
Testing for mortality is common through history across many cultures. If one or more weirdos come to your village, or if you travel to a foreign land full of weirdos, use your blades on them. If they don't die, or if they die and come back, then you know 100% you're dealing with the supernatural. You're right. :) "During the last quarter of the 14th century, religious and lay authorities supported these superstitions, and society as a whole began to believe in the reality of demons and witches." I know plenty of people who still believe in demons here in the 21st. Strange times we're living in. So. There was a THUD. Not a CLANK or anything metallic. I imagine we can cross out the Golden Jones Theory. :( I liked that theory. Side note: I like this comment as a very compact sample of what these forums are about. I haven't even heard of this and I love it already. Don't leave us, Golden Jones Theory, there's so much to be explained!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 22, 2012 9:49:36 GMT
Speaking about Jonesy's durability (and chapter title) do you guys remember when Coyote said "it causes him not see a stone when it is just a stone. Instead, his diseased eye sees a weapon. A symbol. The shape of a woman. A spark of inspiration!" Maybe Jones is a sculpture after all? And maybe Coyote was referring to her, indirectly. Perhaps. ETA: I forgot where I read this, but someone else mentioned the possibility that Jones might be the Venus of Willendorf (or the equivalent) that was depicted in the Third Treatise. Helpful link to the third treatsie.Just for the benefit of any new persons, I've long speculated that Jones is a Galatea. And yeah, there were several small references in the last chapter that have been making me smile about that speculation... I am trying to suppress the urge to repost it in every thread... ;D
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Post by alexh on Oct 22, 2012 10:09:22 GMT
Speaking about Jonesy's durability (and chapter title) do you guys remember when Coyote said "it causes him not see a stone when it is just a stone. Instead, his diseased eye sees a weapon. A symbol. The shape of a woman. A spark of inspiration!" Maybe Jones is a sculpture after all? And maybe Coyote was referring to her, indirectly. Perhaps. ETA: I forgot where I read this, but someone else mentioned the possibility that Jones might be the Venus of Willendorf (or the equivalent) that was depicted in the Third Treatise. Helpful link to the third treatsie.Just for the benefit of any new persons, I've long speculated that Jones is a Galatea. And yeah, there were several small references in the last chapter that have been making me smile about that speculation... I am trying to suppress the urge to repost it in every thread... ;D Wah. That's the Venus of Willendorf. It looks like it, at least. Huh. Though, the Venus was made out of limestone, not wood. But yeah. Okay, that is awesome. (this is the Venus of Willendorf, for those wondering): 2.bp.blogspot.com/-xD8Muqn1aZ8/TcNFQbJDJ7I/AAAAAAAAAOA/Ko4flf-YB0w/s1600/venus%2Bof%2Bwillendorf.jpgAlso, I'd just like to point out how the smoke from the smokestacks is made in the exact way that the tree tops are. I just thought that was cool.
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Post by csj on Oct 22, 2012 10:12:20 GMT
''Venus of Willendorf' Jones' is the funniest fan theory I have seen relating to a webcomic since 'Fat Vriska'.
What y'all are ignoring is the fact that either she's a nun, or is married. Who is she married to?
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Post by alexh on Oct 22, 2012 10:15:21 GMT
Coyote. Duh.
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Post by kuyanj on Oct 22, 2012 10:31:14 GMT
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Post by todd on Oct 22, 2012 10:34:17 GMT
On dating:
Not only is the knight in the picture wearing a Norman helmet, but he has a kite-shaped shield that suggests the latter half of the 11th century. Maybe this is set during the First Crusade, which was at the end of that century.
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Post by keeana on Oct 22, 2012 10:47:04 GMT
Ahhhhh these costumes are so gorgeous. I love the composition of the last panel!
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 22, 2012 11:02:23 GMT
What y'all are ignoring is the fact that either she's a nun, or is married. Who is she married to? That's what I wondered as well. She doesn't bear a cross necklace or bracelet that we can see, but from the last panel, we see a church steeple with a cross in the background, which perhaps is nearby—and perhaps where she just came from (which might indicate that she posed as a nun). If not, then, like you asked, who is she married to? Or maybe she's a widow since the man she "married" probably grew old and he passed away? ...Assuming that the man she might've married knew about her immortality and didn't accuse her of being a devil.
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Post by dailenna on Oct 22, 2012 11:11:30 GMT
Aww Good spot. Poor Jones was saying that from person experience! Jones smashing that pike just like she stole Jimmy Jim's sword - so she learned her pro skills through/for self-defence, not attack. Defence skills perfected over years and years and years ... No wonder she knows how to take care of herself. Although it doesn't seem like she needs to know how, with the whole not-a-scratch thing. I guess it means that she doesn't have to deal with people trying to beat her up or anything time consuming.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 22, 2012 11:19:08 GMT
What y'all are ignoring is the fact that either she's a nun, or is married. Who is she married to? I'm not an expert on medieval clothing but I am unsure that a woman wearing a wimple guarantees that she's married, either to a man or to the church. If she had her hair uncovered I think that would mean she's either a very young maiden or she's single and looking. Or just looking. And advertising that she's looking. I think Jones wearing a wimple just means that she's dressing in the mature and sober style of the day.
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Post by smjjames on Oct 22, 2012 11:25:19 GMT
On dating: Not only is the knight in the picture wearing a Norman helmet, but he has a kite-shaped shield that suggests the latter half of the 11th century. Maybe this is set during the First Crusade, which was at the end of that century. Yeah, seems like Tom skipped the 15th century and went straight for the 11th, maybe 12th century. So, if the next time jump doubles like that, then we will be seeing the 2nd or 3rd century ad, or maybe even the 1st century ad. Unless it quadruples, then it will be about the 8th or 9th century bc.
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Post by Lightice on Oct 22, 2012 11:48:59 GMT
I'm not an expert on medieval clothing but I am unsure that a woman wearing a wimple guarantees that she's married, either to a man or to the church. If she had her hair uncovered I think that would mean she's either a very young maiden or she's single and looking. Or just looking. And advertising that she's looking. I think Jones wearing a wimple just means that she's dressing in the mature and sober style of the day. She may also pretend to be married with a husband who's away fighting the war. It would give her a greater degree of independence and respect in that period than being an unmarried woman without parents. While I can't remember any exact periods, I do know that covering or otherwise keeping the hair down has been the norm for women in Europe more often than not, regardless of their marital status. Completely loose hair was very impractical before hair care products were invented, and was usually considered the sign of a prostitute. Respectable women, depending on the period and their status, either covered their hair with cloth or hat, or bound it down in various styles.
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Post by Alexandragon on Oct 22, 2012 12:28:54 GMT
Wow... Jones is really strong. And she is as always creepy tranquil.
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Post by drzhivago138 on Oct 22, 2012 12:44:51 GMT
So...If she goes "thud," then...she's made of wood?
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Post by grahamf on Oct 22, 2012 13:28:11 GMT
The woman on the left in the second panel has got some Zimmy eyes going on there, maybe why Jones is familiar with her condition? Depending on the history of her family, maybe even an ancestor. I noticed that too. But then her eyes are normal on the 6th panel. Well, we didn't see Jones being accused of a witch, but as a devil. Unless they're synonymous since witches are accused of being associated with The Devil. Or it might be that they have already killed a bunch of woman, and they either have to assume that Jones is something worse, or else come to the conclusion that the women they killed weren't witches.
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Post by grahamf on Oct 22, 2012 13:29:02 GMT
Testing for mortality is common through history across many cultures. If one or more weirdos come to your village, or if you travel to a foreign land full of weirdos, use your blades on them. If they don't die, or if they die and come back, then you know 100% you're dealing with the supernatural. Which I always thought was stupid. If they don't die, then they're going to just be pissed off with the power to do something about it.
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Post by notacat on Oct 22, 2012 13:32:47 GMT
Testing for mortality is common through history across many cultures. If one or more weirdos come to your village, or if you travel to a foreign land full of weirdos, use your blades on them. If they don't die, or if they die and come back, then you know 100% you're dealing with the supernatural. ...and when their friends slaughter you, you know 100% you probably should have tried a different tactic
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Post by Rafael on Oct 22, 2012 14:24:58 GMT
Oh. OK, devil it is, then. Mystery solved, can't wait for the next chapter.
And to drzhivago138, congratulations on winning the thread.
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Post by unrequited on Oct 22, 2012 14:43:03 GMT
So...If she goes "thud," then...she's made of wood? Snip You sir win. Just win at everything! Have an internet, have them all! I'm calling it though, Cavewoman Jones doing Cavewoman things in a week or so.
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Post by johnwwells on Oct 22, 2012 16:19:23 GMT
If it weren't for the name "Wandering Eye", I'd be guessing Galatea at this point, too.
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Post by nero on Oct 22, 2012 16:45:23 GMT
Jones looks great in light blue. My guess is that perhaps Jones was some kind of natural spirit that didn't have a human form. Something like Galatea but not a manmade statue.
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Post by quoodle on Oct 22, 2012 17:45:53 GMT
It seems Jones needs to "move on" either after or before she's discovered. It seems she's leaning towards before in recent decades, human failings being what they are.
The question that comes to mind to me is - now that Annie has "asked the question" - does she need to move on now? Is the acceptance of the Court for odd people giver her perpetual sanctuary? Do the others (Renyard, Ys) - *really* know what she is, or do they just think she's an enigma and leave it at that?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 22, 2012 18:53:51 GMT
Testing for mortality is common through history across many cultures. If one or more weirdos come to your village, or if you travel to a foreign land full of weirdos, use your blades on them. If they don't die, or if they die and come back, then you know 100% you're dealing with the supernatural. ...and when their friends slaughter you, you know 100% you probably should have tried a different tactic The pre-Christian theory was that if they were legitimate gods or immortals then they wouldn't mind you trying to kill them, at least not nearly as much as mortals would mind you trying to kill them. Then you could appease them with offerings. The post-Christian theory was that if it's mortal it dies, evil or not, and a higher authority sorts things out later. If it's evil and it doesn't die then it was out to destroy you anyway, in that case it's time to bring on the prayers and supplications. If it's good and doesn't die and this was all some sort of misunderstanding then it will be forgiving and generally on your side no matter what, so again with the prayers and supplications. If it weren't for the name "Wandering Eye", I'd be guessing Galatea at this point, too. If she's an animated icon of Hathor (a fertility goddess with the Eye of Ra) then I claim full credit because Aphrodite and Hathor are linked, possibly in the GC universe the same deity. ;D
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Oct 22, 2012 19:00:44 GMT
Just for the benefit of any new persons, I've long speculated that Jones is a Galatea. And yeah, there were several small references in the last chapter that have been making me smile about that speculation... I am trying to suppress the urge to repost it in every thread... ;D Unlikely. Tom has stated that Jones is something new, that he has made. Citations forthcoming.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 22, 2012 19:13:58 GMT
Just for the benefit of any new persons, I've long speculated that Jones is a Galatea. And yeah, there were several small references in the last chapter that have been making me smile about that speculation... I am trying to suppress the urge to repost it in every thread... ;D Unlikely. Tom has stated that Jones is something new, that he has made. Citations forthcoming. Awh, so that means we should all stop theorizing? It would be futile to continue with our guesses if Jones's own being is something Tom has created on his own and that exists nowhere else in fiction, mythology, history, etc. Like Tom's Gol-Shogeg. He must've came up with that creature on his own.
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Post by exuberancium on Oct 22, 2012 19:21:08 GMT
Things that don't hurt Jones: Time Pointy objects
I think it's time to try fire.
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