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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #30 on Sept 14, 2011, 12:03pm »

Aaaaand now Kat is going to walk in and COMPLETELY RUIN THE MOOD.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #31 on Sept 14, 2011, 2:14pm »

"But can you forgive me for THIS?" *fireblast*

but really, awww, that's an elegant way to apologize

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #32 on Sept 14, 2011, 2:18pm »

Is it just me, or are Jack's sideburns slowly creeping down his face? In the last panel, they're slightly below the bottoms of his ears. Normally they're above the bottoms. Just a thought.

Also, I'm loving the direction this strip is taking.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #33 on Sept 14, 2011, 2:23pm »

Sept 14, 2011, 2:18pm, drzhivago138 wrote:

Is it just me, or are Jack's sideburns slowly creeping down his face? In the last panel, they're slightly below the bottoms of his ears. Normally they're above the bottoms. Just a thought.

Puberty.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #34 on Sept 14, 2011, 2:24pm »

...But SNOG already... :-*

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #35 on Sept 14, 2011, 3:15pm »

I was somewhat right, I think: unbinding her hair was a significant gesture, deliberately showing Jack a change in the direction things were going.

No conflagration, but I get the same feeling, looking at panels 3, 4, and 6, that I got when I looked at the final page in Fire Spike.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #36 on Sept 14, 2011, 5:04pm »

So did Annie JUST undo her hair to pull off the disheveled look? Because it sure looks like it, and Jack's comment seems to indicate that's what he thinks she's doing. She pulls it off very well, mind... that's a great profile there.

Oh well. It seems like things are back to normal. I'm afraid I can't quite count this as an AnnieJack thing, but at least they're not angry at each other anymore.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #37 on Sept 14, 2011, 5:59pm »

Sept 14, 2011, 5:04pm, Afalstein wrote:

So did Annie JUST undo her hair to pull off the disheveled look? Because it sure looks like it, and Jack's comment seems to indicate that's what he thinks she's doing. She pulls it off very well, mind... that's a great profile there.

Oh well. It seems like things are back to normal. I'm afraid I can't quite count this as an AnnieJack thing, but at least they're not angry at each other anymore.

Nah, she intentionally messes it up in panel 1. That's what she's doing with her hands in her hair.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #38 on Sept 14, 2011, 6:01pm »

Sept 14, 2011, 8:20am, King Mir wrote:

I don't know why people think Annie gave the stone as a romantic symbol to Jack. That's what she raged against Mort for doing to her without a claim.

Because shipping has a way of making people unable to see the forest through the trees. Personally, I think it's a gesture of friendship, like how I would loan one of my friends a book they were interested in. I don't think the stone would amplify emotions, make either of them fall in love with each other, or become some great symbol of romantic love. I think it's a friend loaning another friend something that interests that friend.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #39 on Sept 14, 2011, 7:01pm »

Sept 14, 2011, 7:32am, Refugee wrote:

Concur, except I think the stone links them whether she intended it to or not. The feelings were there, and the stone amplifies them.

Sept 14, 2011, 6:01pm, Molly the Sleepless wrote:

I don't think the stone would amplify emotions, make either of them fall in love with each other, or become some great symbol of romantic love. I think it's a friend loaning another friend something that interests that friend.

I doubt it "amplifies feelings". Anja, knowing who and what she deals with, would warn about this. Because without caution Annie would singe Eggers, etc. But there's yet another possibility to consider:
Suppose blinkers are treated as intimate gifts not only because co-owners may use them to "visit" each other, but because multiple attunements have other consequences?
If my old pet theory is right, Jeanne crossed the river much the same way as scrying via blinkers works.
But what if the stone is a link to the owner and Jeanne was also able to memory-dump Annie only because of their "shared" blinker? She held it at that moment, after all. Also, we can trust Annie to know about ghost powers and she says it's not normal as such things go.
Jack is good at seeing through Annie. He's an observant kid and learned a lot the spidery misadventure, all right. But is he this good just on his own, or?.. He's not a real co-owner yet, but he played with her stone just before this.
And if this was assisted perception, how far it can go between co-owners?!

Sept 14, 2011, 7:32am, 0o0f wrote:

Good to know there wont be any hard feelings between them.

Another wild guess: I can't exclude the possibility that Annie tried to do this in the first place.
I mean, suppose she decides they must work together closely now, but realizes her resentment (what she said and maybe also her failure) interferes. Plausible?
Then she could try to make the relationship less counterproductive, even if it means some guilt. The manner is inappropriate, but Annie's obviously still a bit too clumsy with people for her own trickiness. Even now that her hair goes up.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #40 on Sept 14, 2011, 10:31pm »

Aw, Jack is such a sweetheart.

Concerning Annie's hair, I just assumed it had been tugging on her head a bit too much; it's really long, and looked to be pulled back pretty tight, it makes sense that she would get a headache; and letting it out/messing it up was an expression of weariness.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #41 on Sept 14, 2011, 11:16pm »

"NOW I LOOK LIKE ZIMMY HOLD ON WHILE I FIX MY TEETH"

Sept 14, 2011, 2:23pm, mikeymikemikey wrote:

Puberty.

The ravages of which leave no one unscathed.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #42 on Sept 15, 2011, 4:01am »

Sept 14, 2011, 10:31pm, mariposa wrote:

Aw, Jack is such a sweetheart.

There's also the part where if you put your hair back and leave it for too long you have to sort of muss it up a bit after you take out the hair tie so it comes out of the ponytail position and falls flat again. I end up doing that most every day after work since I have hair roughly the same consistency as Annie's (thick, long, and wavy) and have to keep it tied back for work. If no hand-mussing occurs the hair will stay loosely bunched up and look stupid as hell.

It actually quite impressed me looking at this how Tom even knew about that proclivity of thick hair. It looks like a very natural girly thing for Annie to do, and yet I'm thinking... the artist is a boy. Has he at one point had his hair long enough to tie back? Or does he just watch people very carefully?

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #43 on Sept 15, 2011, 4:12am »

Sept 15, 2011, 4:01am, basser wrote:

Sept 14, 2011, 10:31pm, mariposa wrote:

Aw, Jack is such a sweetheart.

Exactly! This is also what I was thinking that didn't quite make it into words.

I've been dancing ballet for many years (what my hair lacks in thickness and malleability I make up for with force and the extreme duration for which it stays up there), so I am quite familiar with the feeling as well, I just didn't do a great job explaining it. So thanks! After I posted this I realized how impressive it was that Tom knew this stuff, too.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #44 on Sept 15, 2011, 10:42am »

Well, this is the same guy who knows that baby pigeons look really bizarre.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #45 on Sept 15, 2011, 11:00am »

Sept 15, 2011, 4:01am, basser wrote:

It actually quite impressed me looking at this how Tom even knew about that proclivity of thick hair. It looks like a very natural girly thing for Annie to do, and yet I'm thinking... the artist is a boy. Has he at one point had his hair long enough to tie back? Or does he just watch people very carefully?

New theory.
Tom knows EVERYTHING.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #46 on Sept 15, 2011, 11:48am »

Sept 14, 2011, 11:16pm, Per wrote:

"NOW I LOOK LIKE ZIMMY HOLD ON WHILE I FIX MY TEETH"...

I laughed out loud.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #47 on Sept 15, 2011, 7:22pm »

Has he at one point had his hair long enough to tie back? Or does he just watch people very carefully?

That wouldn't surprise me, I'm a guy and my hair is at least as long as Annie's is, also really thick and curly, if you were to see me with it down you might think I had a lion somewhere in my family tree

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #48 on Sept 15, 2011, 7:29pm »

Has he at one point had his hair long enough to tie back? Or does he just watch people very carefully?

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #49 on Sept 15, 2011, 8:16pm »

Part of me is shipping Jack and Carver.

And then the other part of me is reveling in the idea of an unstoppable platonic duo of Jack 'n' Carver.

And the other part of me wants a good four-cheese ravioli.

Also I can't wait for someone (probably Matt) to walk in on them and say something along the lines of:

"Ah, what am I-"

*beat*

*beat*

"I'll... be going now. Erm. Have fun?"

*skedaddles*

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #50 on Sept 15, 2011, 8:49pm »

Sept 15, 2011, 4:01am, basser wrote:

Sept 14, 2011, 10:31pm, mariposa wrote:

Aw, Jack is such a sweetheart.

Wow, good catch. I didn't event think about that. Tom has wonderful attention to details.

I agree with Jack that she was being a little melodramatic, but this is a really cute page. I really like this friendship, even if it never becomes something more than that. I would not complain if Jack became as.... well, maybe not as much a part of the cast as Kat, but maybe around Renard's level? Maybe a little less? Either way, something more than he was before this chapter.

Great work, Tom!

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #51 on Sept 16, 2011, 2:26am »

I can't think of another comic that has affected me this way. I keeping coming back just to look at frame four, with Jack's hand on Annie's shoulder. There is something about her expression, amplified by the perspective making her look smaller, at a disadvantage...something like resentment, something like bracing herself for a rebuke, something like surrender.

She wronged Jack, and he refused to back down. I suspect it's not very often that people refuse to back down from Annie. Jack has done to her what she's done to Reynardine, Ysengrin, even, to a degree, Coyote.

When I say "surrender" I don't mean that she submits to his authority or control. Simply that he won this fight, that she was wrong, that if he chooses to lose respect for her, she can't gainsay him, but she hopes he doesn't.

And then Jack tells her, "You tricked me good." He still regards her with respect, and seeks alliance, even friendship.

I hope this ends here, for now. I think Annie is giving Jack the chance to take advantage of her, testing him one last time, but I think he will not, and pass the test.

I know, that's putting a lot of weight on one panel, with minor assistance from the rest of the strip.

Can't help it. That's such a beautifully drawn expression.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #52 on Sept 16, 2011, 2:45am »

Sept 15, 2011, 11:00am, paxjax123 wrote:

New theory.
Tom knows EVERYTHING.

He must like skee ball, then.

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #53 on Sept 16, 2011, 8:17am »

Sept 16, 2011, 2:45am, rainofsteel wrote:

Sept 15, 2011, 11:00am, paxjax123 wrote:

New theory.
Tom knows EVERYTHING.

He must like skee ball, then.

Isn't it ironic?

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Re: [934] I really am sorry
« Reply #54 on Sept 16, 2011, 12:29pm »

Sept 14, 2011, 12:03pm, basser wrote:

Aaaaand now Kat is going to walk in and COMPLETELY RUIN THE MOOD.

Kat: (runs in) Annie, Annie! We gotta do something, some people think that we.... Oh. N-n-nevermind, already fixed (runs away).
Antimony: (puzzled) Err.... What this was about?
Which would put a proper gravestone on the incident with Paz.

Sept 14, 2011, 11:16pm, Per wrote:

"NOW I LOOK LIKE ZIMMY HOLD ON WHILE I FIX MY TEETH"

Sept 15, 2011, 10:42am, todd wrote:

Well, this is the same guy who knows that baby pigeons look really bizarre.

Aye. Tom knows what he writes about. Of course, this also calls for a question how far this goes... considering some of Gunnerkrigg Court content.